• AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    don't know what i like more, the hurt puppy dog vibe i'm getting from the fash or the "some days i hate this job" energy emanating from the cops

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Cop at the scene said that Patriot Front was pulled over for having people in the back of their beloved U-Haul, shields, "spears" (probably flagpoles), and mentioned "conspiracy to riot" charges. When asked how the cops knew they were in the U-Haul, he said "informants."

      lmao :fedposting:
      https://twitter.com/NYCAntifa/status/1535742874075136001

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        FBI infiltration or lgbt fascist that doesn't want to attack a pride event?

        I can't imagine the FBI minding that much about a small group of fascists disrupting a pride event? Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe FBI had more reasons like testing the reaction of the department?

        Something about this just isn't adding up for me, like there's a little more going on.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            That might actually be it. Letting a bunch of fash openly beat the shit out of people with kids in a park might be bad enough PR for them to head things off.

        • captcha [any]
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          2 years ago

          Its the same reason why then went around "busting" all those ISIS plots in 2014-2015 that had zero ISIS involvement. Its all to justify them their budget to congress and east coast liberals. Both of whom are far more scared of the far right than the far left. The difference here is that there actually are plenty of actual white-nationalist terror plots to bust when there weren't many salafist ones.

          • silent_water [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            it's also that they're the domestic wing of the federal security state. anyone who threatens the US government is on their shit list. doesn't make them much better at dealing with the fash but they are ideologically committed for the moment to take them down. that will change after a few more rounds of the right replacing their leadership but for the moment they'll keep entrapping the para-military orgs.

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Describing cops doing their job as just justifying their budget has very similar energy to when politicians who are passing bills that provide material benefit to constituents as "buying votes".

            • captcha [any]
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              2 years ago

              I was describing the FBI not the cops. Cops probably did it because the FBI told them too.

              • OgdenTO [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Yeah, I didn't mean to convey that you're wrong that the cops (or fbi) perform their job to justify their budgets - that's their crumbs to funnel money to their pockets.

                The other way around is what the libs describe a potentially useful government as doing (any government actually helping is buying votes).

                I guess it's all projection

                :astronaut-2: :astronaut-1:

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Unironically, the feds tend to be more diverse than cops. Pink imperialism isn’t just a meme when it comes to shit like the FBI and CIA. In fact, in today’s age it would be nearly impossible to do their job without a diverse range of agents fucking about people’s business

          I’ve seen gay feds, black feds, female feds, Asian feds, and trans feds at career fairs.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The Local cops might have instigated it if they didn't want outsiders coming up and creating a mess on their turf. There's a difference between letting your buddies that you drink with beat people up and a bunch of strangers from fuck knows where coming in to mess up your town.

        • regul [any]
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          2 years ago

          It's Idaho. The cops are all 1488 types. They were probably in the group chats. Why one of them decided to snitch who knows.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah that's really what I'm getting at, there's a "Why though?" question here. I'm not really convinced about wanting good-will after Uvalde that was put forwards. It all feels incomplete to me.

            • regul [any]
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              2 years ago

              Some of em like head pats.

            • Shoegazer [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Power struggle could be a reason. Someone could’ve had a different plan or wanted to hold off until later or wanted to consolidate power but another guy influenced the group more so he had to get rid of that camp.