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  • cawsby [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Every country in the world that has ruminants or grain crops has biolabs like these to handle anthrax spores and other scary shit.

    This is the same sort of story that makes it sound like China released Covid-19 because they were studying bat coronaviruses.

    The US doesn't even trust most NATO members with biological warfare research there is no way in hell they would trust Ukraine.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      So why is the Pentagon funding it, and why is it staffed with foreigners with diplomatic immunity?

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Also the US doesn’t shit where it eats. They aren’t going to be having dangerous experimental pathogens in the core where it could blow up in their face. They will put them on the peripheries bordering their rivals.

        There’s a reason the US invades nations in the Middle East and Africa on the other side of the world, and not Mexico or Cuba. It’s not good business to destabilize and destroy your neighbor, much better to do your imperial looting far away where the damage spills over to other nations and there’s less chance of blowback

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          They aren’t going to be having dangerous experimental pathogens in the core where it could blow up in their face

          looks at Ft Detrick suspiciously 👀

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They aren’t going to be having dangerous experimental pathogens in the core where it could blow up in their face.

          Fort Detrick is literally right there. CDC Atlanta works with the scariest diseases that have ever existed.

        • replaceable [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There’s a reason the US invades nations in the Middle East and Africa on the other side of the world, and not Mexico or Cuba.

          They did invade cuba in the bay of pigs invasion and nearly did it with the actual army during the missile crisis

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            But importantly, they've not actually done it. Bay of Pigs had US training and logistical support, but the US is not going to do an invasion of its neighbor with its own military. Plus, that was 60 years ago, and the US military has only become more cowardly since.

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm seeing grants for lab modernization, monitoring old nuke/bio/chem weapon storage, and repairing secure sites with samples on the USA today article and the DW article on the biolab theory.

        The US has an 800k acre facility biowarfare research area in the Dugway Proving grounds that does all sorts of crazy shit - stuff beyond VX was developed there. Some of the ground is so fucked up they have to use bunnysuits to walk outside when the wind blows. Dugway is where the DoD have tested all known chemical/bio weapons, why would they change now ? The DoD doesn't care about the few Mormons and Native Americans who live nearby with higher cancer rates. The military folks really don't need to use Ukraine to do nasty shit, they'll do it right here in the states.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          You haven’t explained why the Pentagon is handling these civilian agricultural biolabs and not the CDC, NIH or an agricultural or civilian group. Nor why they use foreign researchers with diplomatic plates

          • cawsby [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I have no idea how American government procurement works but it looks like these DoD grants are specifically for countries with the possibility of proliferation from old Soviet programs.

            Link to the Grant Fact Sheet.

            DoD’s CTR Program began its biological work with Ukraine to reduce the risk posed by the former Soviet Union’s illegal biological weapons program, which left Soviet successor states with unsecured biological materials after the fall of the USSR.

            I have no idea how diplomatic status works on DoD programs dealing with bioweapon storage. Is having diplomatic status unusual?

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              If that was true they would phase the labs out as Soviet scientists retire. Instead they keep the work going and bring in foreign scientists.

              This shit doesn’t add up, it stinks, the US lied and denied them until cornered & the US has a history of using bio warfare

              I don’t buy any of this and find it much more likely and simple that they are simply doing bio weapon research

          • cawsby [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I never implied the US was currently doing bioweapons research at Dugway; however, if the US was doing bioweapons research that is where they would do it not in Ukraine or any other place.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Don’t forget proven and documented biological warfare waged in Korea, Vietnam and against Cuban crops

    • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      What if i told you the usa released COVID in China cuz they thought it would wreck them. But instead, like everything America does now, it back fired and wrecked the USA