Billie Eilish shouldn’t have to dress in baggy clothes all the time, but I’m glad she explains exactly why she does it and calls out the perverts who obsess over her body
did they start out deepfaking minors? i'm not sure drawing what you think an adult might look like naked is more harmful than simply imagining it, nor that making a computer do it changes that.
the harm happens when you start harassing somebody and we don't need fancy cgi porn for the pests to cross that line.
Yes, creeps can imagine creep things, but having access and availability of pedo treats both normalizes their cravings and in many cases places them on a hedonic treadmill where they need bigger "hits" for the same effect.
Almost every convicted pedophile started with child porn first.
I'd rather not have the hedonic treadmill/normalization debate all over again, though. I've done this song and dance before it comes down to "nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh" so I'll pass and let you believe what you want to believe. :wall-talk:
I’ve done this song and dance before it comes down to “nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh” so I’ll pass and let you believe what you want to believe.
it's not like any study could pass even neoliberal IRB standards of ethics and any non-raping pedos aren't going to talk to your random phone survey so this doesn't seem like the kind of thing we can make rigorous conclusions about.
It's a weird hill for you to fight on in particular, in my opinion. I already said I'd rather not continue this exchange because you've already went to the "nuh uh" with a preemptive rejection of any sources I would have otherwise cited. :wall-talk:
I'm very aware of that. I even brought it up before, but a particularly offended treat enjoyer on :reddit-logo: stalked me for a few weeks after I mentioned it years back.
Same deal with Elizabeth from Bioshock, but she's in that magical "she's totally 18 where applicable, guys" zone so it's totally kosher.
In both cases, the cryptocreepy narration is the player is the father (or father figure) dubiously protecting them while the porn tends to be about the Always Sunny In Philadelphia style "because of the implications" consequences of such "protection." When they aren't being violated by monsters from their respective settings. :kombucha-disgust:
There was a whole thing where they blew up her boobs in promos for the 3rd Harry Potter movie. I don’t think she ever got called a “whore” or a “sex goddess” by major publications, though
didn't that happen in the 2000's with Emma Watson
deleted by creator
Billie Eilish shouldn’t have to dress in baggy clothes all the time, but I’m glad she explains exactly why she does it and calls out the perverts who obsess over her body
it's probably worse now as social media means weirdos now have more access to creep on these young girls
The :reddit-logo: creep who got "Deepfakes" started deserves a very special corner of hell.
That's awful I hadn't heard of that but I'm also not remotely surprised somehow
did they start out deepfaking minors? i'm not sure drawing what you think an adult might look like naked is more harmful than simply imagining it, nor that making a computer do it changes that.
the harm happens when you start harassing somebody and we don't need fancy cgi porn for the pests to cross that line.
Yes, creeps can imagine creep things, but having access and availability of pedo treats both normalizes their cravings and in many cases places them on a hedonic treadmill where they need bigger "hits" for the same effect.
Almost every convicted pedophile started with child porn first.
I'd rather not have the hedonic treadmill/normalization debate all over again, though. I've done this song and dance before it comes down to "nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh" so I'll pass and let you believe what you want to believe. :wall-talk:
it's not like any study could pass even neoliberal IRB standards of ethics and any non-raping pedos aren't going to talk to your random phone survey so this doesn't seem like the kind of thing we can make rigorous conclusions about.
It's a weird hill for you to fight on in particular, in my opinion. I already said I'd rather not continue this exchange because you've already went to the "nuh uh" with a preemptive rejection of any sources I would have otherwise cited. :wall-talk:
that wasn't a "nuh uh" and i'm not fighting. I don't have a strong opinion, I just said why i don't.
:zizek-ok:
Just a reminder that the NSFW Billie Eilish sub:reddit-logo: has more subs than the main Billie Eilish sub:reddit-logo:
Jesus fuck
Also happened with Elliot Page pre-transition.
I used to get ads for Last of Us porn. Ellie is canonically 14 in those games and is blatantly based off of Elliot’s face pre-transition
:bern-disgust:
I'm very aware of that. I even brought it up before, but a particularly offended treat enjoyer on :reddit-logo: stalked me for a few weeks after I mentioned it years back.
Same deal with Elizabeth from Bioshock, but she's in that magical "she's totally 18 where applicable, guys" zone so it's totally kosher.
In both cases, the cryptocreepy narration is the player is the father (or father figure) dubiously protecting them while the porn tends to be about the Always Sunny In Philadelphia style "because of the implications" consequences of such "protection." When they aren't being violated by monsters from their respective settings. :kombucha-disgust:
There was a whole thing where they blew up her boobs in promos for the 3rd Harry Potter movie. I don’t think she ever got called a “whore” or a “sex goddess” by major publications, though
Wow, I don't remember that at all, but I definitely remember creeps obsessing over how pretty she is and "counting the days" until she's 18