:epstein: :solidarity: :grillman:

  • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I don’t wanna hear a single thing ever again from the straights about queer people sexualizing their children. Fucking hell.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      If this was the kind of thing that was hanging around on magazine racks, I’d have been worried about my kid too. Wonder how much of this was deflection about the fact that elites were doing it. You know what the stereotype of a pedophile looks like? Because it’s not a guy in a suit with a bunch of power and influence. It’s an unkempt loner with bad social skills.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Right. And there are still pedophiles in everyday life today too. I’m just saying that the imagery of a pedophile in the public consciousness has never been able to drift towards the people with the most access and affluence to systemic child abuse

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              I'm old enough to remember when mainstream media and magazines in groceries stores were all about "The Olsen Twins are almost leeeeegal!" :epsteingelion:

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Fuckin' hell. I was thinking maybe this is just a hidden magazine that was obscure, but the Washington Post?

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        :elmofire: :lord-bezos-amused: :elmofire:

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      what the actual FUCK

      i hate patriarchy SO MUCH imagine how many GROWN MEN looked at that shit and are ALIVE today

      revolution in america would be digging through millions of cases like this and beating the people involved senseless and sending them to some place far, far away from society

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    "The Marxists want money for doing nothing"

    Say the people who've been getting money for doing nothing for decades.

    "The LGBTQ are sexualizing children"

    Say the people who've been sexualizing kids for decades.

    Fascists are nothing if not consistent.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It's Karl Rove playbook projection. Always has been.

      • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Billie Eilish shouldn’t have to dress in baggy clothes all the time, but I’m glad she explains exactly why she does it and calls out the perverts who obsess over her body

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Just a reminder that the NSFW Billie Eilish sub:reddit-logo: has more subs than the main Billie Eilish sub:reddit-logo:

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        it's probably worse now as social media means weirdos now have more access to creep on these young girls

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The :reddit-logo: creep who got "Deepfakes" started deserves a very special corner of hell.

          • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            did they start out deepfaking minors? i'm not sure drawing what you think an adult might look like naked is more harmful than simply imagining it, nor that making a computer do it changes that.

            the harm happens when you start harassing somebody and we don't need fancy cgi porn for the pests to cross that line.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yes, creeps can imagine creep things, but having access and availability of pedo treats both normalizes their cravings and in many cases places them on a hedonic treadmill where they need bigger "hits" for the same effect.

              Almost every convicted pedophile started with child porn first.

              I'd rather not have the hedonic treadmill/normalization debate all over again, though. I've done this song and dance before it comes down to "nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh" so I'll pass and let you believe what you want to believe. :wall-talk:

              • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                I’ve done this song and dance before it comes down to “nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh” so I’ll pass and let you believe what you want to believe.

                it's not like any study could pass even neoliberal IRB standards of ethics and any non-raping pedos aren't going to talk to your random phone survey so this doesn't seem like the kind of thing we can make rigorous conclusions about.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  It's a weird hill for you to fight on in particular, in my opinion. I already said I'd rather not continue this exchange because you've already went to the "nuh uh" with a preemptive rejection of any sources I would have otherwise cited. :wall-talk:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Also happened with Elliot Page pre-transition.

      • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I used to get ads for Last of Us porn. Ellie is canonically 14 in those games and is blatantly based off of Elliot’s face pre-transition

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I'm very aware of that. I even brought it up before, but a particularly offended treat enjoyer on :reddit-logo: stalked me for a few weeks after I mentioned it years back.

          Same deal with Elizabeth from Bioshock, but she's in that magical "she's totally 18 where applicable, guys" zone so it's totally kosher.

          In both cases, the cryptocreepy narration is the player is the father (or father figure) dubiously protecting them while the porn tends to be about the Always Sunny In Philadelphia style "because of the implications" consequences of such "protection." When they aren't being violated by monsters from their respective settings. :kombucha-disgust:

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      There was a whole thing where they blew up her boobs in promos for the 3rd Harry Potter movie. I don’t think she ever got called a “whore” or a “sex goddess” by major publications, though

      • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Wow, I don't remember that at all, but I definitely remember creeps obsessing over how pretty she is and "counting the days" until she's 18

  • Spike [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Reading the comments, fucking hell. Brooke's mother gave consent to have her photographed nude at the age of 8-10. Boomers are fucked

    • RonaldMcReagan [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      That's just so fucked. I have a bunch more I could write, but it's just so fucking fucked. Poor fucking kid.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    i knew the 70s were ridiculously bad when it comes to sexualizing little girls both in film and photography, like, unimaginably bad from today's perspective, but i just don't have words for the amount of :awooga: directed towards a literal child that is going on there.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It was culturally normal back then, and now aging :grillman: chuds want to fuck the children in a new figurative way as well. :agony-4horsemen:

      • MUATRA [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        My dad told my mom he was going to marry her when she was 12 and they married when she was 18. He was like 16 years older and this was all considered normal and cute apparently

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      A very similar article contemporary with it was in the Washington Post, too. :lord-bezos-amused:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They were predators and still are. :astronaut-2: :astronaut-1:

  • GriddlePill [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Pure rage. This shit somehow got more and more psychic damage inducing with every line. I went through various stages of losing my shit and settled upon an incoherent WAAAAGGGGHHHH. Wannabe child fucking chuds turned me into more of an ork than they are.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Based on the sources I'm reading, child pornography was not specifically made illegal until 1977 in the United States, and even then, it was minors under 16 until 1984... (before that, it usually just fell under obscenity laws). Is this true?

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    ive read a lot of gross critic literature in my time but this is the foulest yet. i wonder if nabokov ever regretted releasing a book about and condemning these people when it only seemed to give them license

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Woody Allen is the Henry Kissinger of pedophiles. A monster his entire life that just. Won't. Die.