Also yeah I can't believe I blanked out on how fucked up 5 was

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    9 months ago

    I still remember the part where you go from Somalia as viewed by a white man from Boise, ID to Africa as viewed by a 19th century Englishman with straw skirts and spears and magic temples

    Even as a teenage boy, I was agog

    Especially when you find that journal entry that states that the enhanced parasite they infected these people with, increased their jumping power

    Literally the black people have an extra leg muscle, that's why they're more athletic than the otherwise superior white man shit

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah at first I felt the game was just tone deaf in depicting a roid raged white man punching out meek africans but the village temples scene made me think this shit was intentional and goes beyond cultural myopia.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    9 months ago

    At least the discourse around 5 is better today than it was in 2008 wherein anyone calling this racist shit out was belittled. And it sucks because I'm a big Biohazard fan but even when I was a lib playing 5 for the first time it raised my eyebrow and go "well shit".

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      9 months ago

      anyone calling this racist shit out was belittled.

      I gotta say, I was dumbfounded even back then. It's "Rules of Engagement" levels of racist. Like, it's so racist you assume they know what they're doing and are making some kind of high brow comment on racism but then the heel turn is that they get Even More Racist.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
      hexagon
      MA
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      9 months ago

      For real, my reaction was initially "holy shit, dude" and I believe I was still in my little hogglet phase

    • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah even as very uncritical youths, playing it coop after school we were still like “are we really doing this?!” I expected some plot point that challenged these themes, even if not as strongly as say Spec Ops The Line. I thought we’d get something, but it never came.

    • robinn_IV
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      9 months ago

      At least the discourse around 5 is better today than it was in 2008 wherein anyone calling this racist shit out was belittled.

      I have unfortunate news...

  • Poogona [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I played the hell out of 5 back in the day and was blessed to do so with people laughing in disbelief at the way the racism got more and more ambitious over the course of the game

    Like it starts with a familiar "hostile hordes" trope that can hide its racism beneath the broader class paranoia of modern zombie media

    But then you have the tribal African zombies showing how dark it truly gets in the rural hideaways of the Dark Continent us-foreign-policy

    And to top it all off you have the final sections filled with ridiculously stereotyped "African militants" wearing camo pants and red berets with mini guns

    It's all totally problematic but at least it was energetic in its derangement, Japan especially at the time was so behind the curve when it came to matters of race

    • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah it's funny because the stuff in the demo and first act looks downright tame compared to what comes after....

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Japan: does the remake and turns all the bad guys into variations of Mister Popo

  • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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    9 months ago

    Can't they just remake Resident Evil Outbreak instead

    Like make it a Left4Dead clone, people would eat that shit up

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    "What if we made RE4 but with co-op!"

    Should have been a giant no-issues money printer. But then somebody at the studio twisted the racism dial until it broke off.

  • Charliisarobot [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    I have been playing through all the re games with a friend, if you haven't played it's fucking wild how racist it is, even for the time it sticks out. All the controversy was centered on the first act which is fuckin bad but it gets so much worse anyone saying it's not that bad because "there were Spanish zombies and these are african zombies" either hasn't played it or cannot be trusted it's fuckin wild. The tribal shit after the first act is 1930's cartoon level racist.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      I was on the 'well, it takes place in this locale and the bad guys are a western company exploiting the region, so there's a good critique, so the imagery is pretty bad but it'd combined with an anti colonial message, which if all of this was less ham fisted the juxtaposition could be really interesting, so ehhhh, attempt at anti racism comes off as racist category." And then the tribal dudes showed up. Also the game turned out to be dumber than mist resident evils story wise so the commentary I thought was there at first wasn't.

      Edit: main

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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        9 months ago

        Yeah any benefit of the doubt I was tempted to give the game disappeared when I saw that one unlockable costume for the female lead... blocky-wat

  • bazingabrain
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    9 months ago

    can they just make a sequel to village please, that shit was gas, stop making remakes of games that sucked then and will suck now

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    9 months ago

    lmao why would you want a resident evil 5 remake anyways? What's next? Umbrella Corps remake? Resident Evil pachi-slot machine remake?

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah, even if the somehow removed all the racism it would still be a genuinely bad game

      It was like someone at capcom knew the RE4 was a good game but had no idea what made it good

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
      hexagon
      MA
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      9 months ago

      Pretty much follows the trend of the "triple A" corpo-gaming industry has set itself on in its continual gluttonous path of starvation

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I think they can and will ultimately remake it. The trick I think is mostly just to shift the story focus on to Sheva, have Chris as more of the partner character, and just take out the whole swamp / grass skirts section. The issue would be the story angle between Chris and Wesker, but I think that could still play out fine with Chris as secondary.

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    What if the Resident Evil was the short-sighted bigotry we carried in our hearts all along?