I'm looking for a new laptop for work and realised that all the programs I use also run on Mac OS. I can't find a windows laptop (within the same price range) that is as thin/light, with such good battery life.
Only problem is that everytime I've had to use Mac OS on someone else's computer, I've hated it.
Macs don't have a delete key. Theyre computers for people who don't know how to use computers
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As in you can use it to delete the character to the right of the cursor, not the one to the left? I know Macs have a key labeled "delete" but it's actually just a backspace key
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Delete is Two keys pressed at the same time and no we’re not going to tell you which ones. Perhaps around a campfire the elders of MacOS will reveal this ancient wisdom.
it's too bad you can't use a computer to find information about its keyboard
I've just googled it an apparently fn+backspace = delete on Mac. Absolutely barbaric, why would anyone subject themselves to this
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the only people with num pads or those separate function keys in 2022 are g*mers, and leaving the main keyboard is slower than pressing two keys at once anyhow
Plenty of non-g*mers have full sized keyboards, how dare you accuse me of g*ming. Leaving the main keyboard is only slower than pressing two buttons simultaneously if you aren't used to it. To me the reverse is true bc that's what I'm used to
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Just cause they label backspace delete doesn't mean there's a delete key
Apple products are for nerds that smell their own farts.
owning an apple MacBook will make you look like a liberal blowhard and I will silently disapprove of you from across the room
I run a Thinkpad with Linux for work. Not really thin or lightweight but I don't care about that so I'm happy with it. Of course if your software is apple proprietary you're just fucked then, that's how they get you on their damn closed system bullshit.
My company got me a fairly premium Thinkpad and I worn it out after like a year of usage, there's already battery problems and the touchpad is kinda fucked already. The build quality is not THAT bad since the laptop is still usable but honestly I'd expect much more for that kind of money.
I hate to say it but Apple really does have the best build quality. It's probably also not perfect but it seems it's the best, maybe Dell still has decent build quality haven't checked in on them in a while, but yeah overall 99% of laptops are fucking garbage.
owning an apple MacBook will make you look like a liberal blowhard and I will silently disapprove of you from across the room
I too silently judge everyone who owns a MacBook, so that's fair
MACs only have one butan!!1
Seriously though, macOS is an amazing operating system, you just have to be willing to "Let go and let Steve" to some extent, especially at first. There are a billion small tweaks and utilities to adjust OS behaviors once you become familiar with macOS. I have been using Apple laptops for almost two decades now and I am still amazed by the horrible build quality of windows laptops every time I am required to use one.
Definitely don't buy the m1 air when it doesn't even have magsafe and the m2 air comes out next month.
The hardware is solid (screen, keyboard, speakers, touchpad) but my god you can't just run Linux on it and Asahi is not there yet.
The M2 is significantly more expensive though, and I anticipate the m1 will be good enough for me for the next 5 years.
5 years without magsafe? 🤢
Every time I plug my M1 Mac I am resentful that I don't have it.
If it's between windows and Mac, I'd recommend the Mac.
But Linux is where we should all end up... eventually.
Really wish linux had great creative software and not a bunch of half broken messes.
It's a network effect kind of thing. Everybody has windows/Mac so if you write creative software you have to target at least one of them. But because that software doesn't work on Linux, it's hard to get more people to use Linux.
Easy dualbooting / virtualization is the oath forward, imo, short of revolution and putting Linux on every student's computer.
Which sort of creative software? The only thing I really haven't been able to find good software for is a raster image editor
Gimp, Blender, and Kitra all have good built in raster editors.
using Blender for raster editing sounds absolutely awful XD
Krita is very good for painting, but very bad for technical gamedev asset making. Gimp is impressive, yet needlessly complicated
The day MS Office works on Linux is the day I switch.
Also Autohotkey. Haven't been able to find a good alternative on Linux.
- You can't use more than one external monitor. Apparently this is a hardware issue, and was fixed in the newer generation M-class chips.
- macOS is better than Windows but it still leaps and bounds worse than Linux.
- But if flexibility isn't your thing - like I said, imo it's better than Windows.
That's about it tbh. It's a good machine, I am particularly impressed by its battery life. If it could easily run Linux I would probably own one myself.
I think it's just downright impossible to get that battery life on x86, it really is that impressive. And yeah you're right, Asahi Linux is the closest we currently have to Linux on the M1 chips, and that is in a very early alpha apparently, idk what that maens in terms of its usability.
All I can say is that I really wanted the form factor and quality of a MacBook but fucking hate MacOS so I got the Razer Blade Stealth and I’ve been very happy with it. It’s light, it’s sleek, the battery lasts a long time, and it’s super fast and powerful for a laptop. Pricey though.
As a dev, I highly caution against getting the M1 mac. So many dev environments and dev tools are broken on it. Many members on my team just got their M1s, and they have nothing but problems with using them.
The mac book air I bought in 2013 was one of the best purchases ever made. It's still going strong, although support for it has been discontinued, so I'm waiting for a rainy day to put Arch on it.
I haven't bought any mac product since, so I know things could have changed.
I have a pretty strong background in Linux, and found OS X to be the best 'out of the box' UI for a posix machine. Arch and i3w are my faves, but no way could you recommend that to a normie lol
I have a pretty strong background in Linux, and found OS X to be the best ‘out of the box’ UI for a posix machine.
That's interesting. I'm fairly comfortable with Linux too so I'm hoping that'll ease the switch to macOS.
The Dell XPS 13 is a similar non-mac laptop.
Also it has hardware that's generally well-supported on Linux.
That, and the ThinkPad X1, are the two main competitors I'm looking at.
Both are more expensive though.
Only problem is that everytime I’ve had to use Mac OS on someone else’s computer, I’ve hated it.
You can always return it for a full refund if you still don’t like it after 14 days :shrug-outta-hecks:
