https://nitter.net/OccupyDemocrats/status/1540854067466883072?t=Ghm7kJCCVOMVoCTDyhv9DQ&s=19

  • OldMole [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Cleverly and snarkily owning the right by giving them an easy piece of propaganda for free

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      this is the party that says socialists aren't shrewd or realistic in their strategies

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    When will people learn that vasectomies aren't "easily reversible". Come on this is like unironically basic biology

    Chances of reversal being successful are only at 60 to 70% if reversed within the first three years, after that it drops dramatically, like 5 to 10% per year

    • VapedCrusader [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      its never going to actually pass (but it would STILL be safer and more effective than abortion bans) its to illustrate how the law is being used against women to moronic men. Its fucking stupid, sure, libs have litterally no idea what the fuck they are doing.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        But even if it is to show that "men wouldn't tolerate it if men were denied boldily autonomy", it doesn't work as a point, because thousands of men literally have been forcibly sterilised in eugenics campaigns, genocides and medical experiments and it was male doctors and politicians supporting it and doing it.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Like I see the point about pointing out hypocrisy, and it does get it across in some cases.

            But that tweet/bill goes straight to eugenics talking points with "emotionally and financially stable". How do you quantify that in a society where only the rich can get that?

            • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Try to be clever, but somehow make folks in the state that already don’t like you hate you more

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        its to illustrate how the law is being used against women

        The core argument behind a ban on abortion is that you're murdering babies. That's a tough ideological nut to crack, but Dems could definitely "Own the Conservatives" by taking this moment to embrace Universal Medicaid under the same Right to Life moniker.

        Instead, we get this nauseating horseshit.

        If Dems REALLY wanted to Own the Conservatives, they could take these anti-abortion laws and apply them to immigrant detention camps. Demand the release of every pregnant woman. Denounce the prisons as Abortion Mills. Make a BFD about how Republicans are doing Hispanic Genocide.

        Hell, they could apply this to the entire US prison system.

        But they won't, because that would be more than just snarky performative useless crap.

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    :geordi-no: puberty blockers and affirming care

    :geordi-yes: surgical sterilization until 'stability'

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Like what the actual fuck? It's fucking wild to think of the material conditions in place that keep people from stability and then think, "Instead of fixing those conditions, why don't we castrate children?"

  • supersaiyan [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I know this bill is meant to be a statement, but the financial stability make no sense. They could of just said all men, and not mentioned financial stability.

    it sounds like eugenics, but these people can't help themselves.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      it sounds like eugenics

      It will almost certainly be used as such. "Financial and emotional stability..."

      "So you don't support the status quo and capitalist system? Sounds like you're not emotionally mature yet"

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      it sounds like eugenics

      Sounds like? It literally is.

      Doing the 🤡-makeup meme, except you're dressing as an SS officer.

    • supersaiyan [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      are these types of bills meant to scare men or something? Everybody knows this will never get passed it is not much of a intimidation.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think the libs still think they can win with clever gotchas, like the Fash will see this and be like "Oh now I understand how it is wrong to violate the autonomy of other people I have seen the error of my ways and will change". Because for whatever reason Libs don't understand that Abortion is a religious crusade for the Fash and their end goal is to dominate, humiliate, and immiserate their enemies. Libs will say "The cruelty is the point" but they don't really understand what that means.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          I think the libs still think they can win with clever gotchas

          “It’s gonna be just like west wing” :so-true:

        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Libs still haven't understood that Republicans have the ultimate brains, and any attempt at "owning them with their own logic" is just going to enrage them and send their victim-mentality into overdrive. Republicans already believe that Democrats want to declare a war on Real Men(tm), and are in the pocket of "feminists". Nothing about their belief system is connected to material reality and just gets based on vibes and fake headlines from Facebook. Like, I cannot overstate just how fucking idiotic the average right winger is, and how they go through life just being permanently enraged at everything, without any way to articulate why.

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Democrat: "Look how stupid you are."

      Republican: (sharpens blade faster)

      Democrat: "Don't you realize how stupid this makes you look?"

      Republican: (sharpens blade faster)

      Democrat: "I bet you wish you were less stupid and more smart like me*)

      Republican: (sharpens blade faster)

  • ajouter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    These fucks trying to do this cheeky shit is almost worse than them doing nothing. We get it the republicans are hypocrites. Be more productive.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    doing forced penis surgery on thousands of children to... own the fascists? wait

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The right will claim this is part of the forced feminisation that the marxist left wants to do to men.

    Step 1: Vasectomies

    Step 2: Testosterone blockers

    Step 3: HRT

  • Lundi [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    haha GOTCHA! hahaha OWNED totally got u. fuck.

    That was so good, dems ownin' so hard bro. u mite have cancelled abortion but can u deal with this sick rhetoric?