Wouldn't surprise me if the long game is 1780s, to bring back OG slavery, not the prison slavery that currently exists.
We have some rabid monarchist theocrats around. Just watch, the next trick with be to codify something that limits it to a certain branch of Christian prayer when Muslims in Dearborn start prayer in schools and scare the fundies.
I don't see why they wouldn't continue the prison slavery thing because the US has shown it's willing to mass-incarcerate and to criminalize literally anything to make it happen. Like if you make homelessness, protests, etc. illegal then you got millions of people who can be arrested and un-personed by society and the establishment. Gives everyone a "don't' do crime and you won't get imprisoned" thin excuse, which is all anyone needs to do or support the worst things imaginable.
Right, they can't just copy the previous fascists homework, they have to change a few things around to make their ideals look original so they can just tell all the "debate" libs that this is nothing like the past
Right, that was one of the initial big draws of moving toward capitalism.
When the Americas were first colonized they just worked the Indigenous slaves right to death, gave as little fucks about maintenance even left them out in the elements (or so some account went,this was more CenAm), yes disease played a role as well in mass killing, when the labor provided was too low since they genocided too many people then they started importing Africans which was more costly. Early colonizers had this absolutely nasty view indigenous slaves were seen as free gifts of nature, some inconsequential part of the land they conquered. Genocide was considered no differently than clearing the land for settlers and if you look in journals of the assholes at the time they wax poetic on that horrific shit. Collapsing US will share in this view, we're all seen as part of the resources they have on hand rather than humans.
It wouldn't surprise me if US history ends similarly to its beginning because of its highest developed fascism being a wonton colonialist death cult, and also so inept at containing its contradictions that it takes us back to pre-feudal period in futile hopes of again giving birth to bourgeois-aristocracy at a later time. It's not exactly a fully rational decision, its more of a reaction and cope. At least that's my thoughts on it so far, I'm no expert.
Wouldn't surprise me if the long game is 1780s, to bring back OG slavery, not the prison slavery that currently exists.
We have some rabid monarchist theocrats around. Just watch, the next trick with be to codify something that limits it to a certain branch of Christian prayer when Muslims in Dearborn start prayer in schools and scare the fundies.
I don't see why they wouldn't continue the prison slavery thing because the US has shown it's willing to mass-incarcerate and to criminalize literally anything to make it happen. Like if you make homelessness, protests, etc. illegal then you got millions of people who can be arrested and un-personed by society and the establishment. Gives everyone a "don't' do crime and you won't get imprisoned" thin excuse, which is all anyone needs to do or support the worst things imaginable.
Filling prisons with actual leftists capable of radicalizing people seems like it might backfire.
Right, they can't just copy the previous fascists homework, they have to change a few things around to make their ideals look original so they can just tell all the "debate" libs that this is nothing like the past
With all these abortion prosecutions coming down m, they’ll have even more exploitable labor.
I was thinking it would be more like the late 1800's or early 1900's, but your estimate sounds like it could happen too at this rate.
No actual slavery, but still kkk and Jim crow, and like 5 capitalists own the entire economy. Seems what they want openly
Way more expensive to maintain slaves alive than it is to just give workers pocket change then blame it on them if they can't live off of it
Right, that was one of the initial big draws of moving toward capitalism.
When the Americas were first colonized they just worked the Indigenous slaves right to death, gave as little fucks about maintenance even left them out in the elements (or so some account went,this was more CenAm), yes disease played a role as well in mass killing, when the labor provided was too low since they genocided too many people then they started importing Africans which was more costly. Early colonizers had this absolutely nasty view indigenous slaves were seen as free gifts of nature, some inconsequential part of the land they conquered. Genocide was considered no differently than clearing the land for settlers and if you look in journals of the assholes at the time they wax poetic on that horrific shit. Collapsing US will share in this view, we're all seen as part of the resources they have on hand rather than humans.
It wouldn't surprise me if US history ends similarly to its beginning because of its highest developed fascism being a wonton colonialist death cult, and also so inept at containing its contradictions that it takes us back to pre-feudal period in futile hopes of again giving birth to bourgeois-aristocracy at a later time. It's not exactly a fully rational decision, its more of a reaction and cope. At least that's my thoughts on it so far, I'm no expert.