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  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's kinda understandable why they'd hate drugs. Historically, drugs have been intentionally used against the global south to bring them down.

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah. This whole post is ignorant at best and chauvinist at worst

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        • FidelCastro [he/him]
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          hmm? AES countries have completely different material conditions than the imperial core.

          I understand why China has many substances either banned and/or decriminalized.

          I can also believe those same substances should be completely legal in the imperial core.

          That’s to say nothing of how different china and other AES handle a substance being illegal than the US. Amerika is completely deranged and the breadth of it’s incarceration system is unparalleled. The Amerikan carceral slavery complex is an abomination.

          It is a very liberal brained impulse for western chauvinists to assume all country’s governments behave like the united states. They simply do not. Amerika is uniquely and horrifyingly evil.

          I have no interest in debating whether china is bad because they don’t want another century of humiliation. I trust they’ll probably legalize such things whenever it eventually works for them as a country.

          As to other AES, they should of course be taking notes from imperialist tactics of oppression and adapting accordingly. Not doing so would be negligent.

          Death to Amerika. Death to the imperial core. China good.

          :amerikka: :xi-lib-tears:

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            • FidelCastro [he/him]
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              You can support the war on drugs in China and not in the US if you want, but calling my position chauvinist is absurd, especially in view of the harms that enforcement of the drug war has caused in non- western countries, from cartels in Mexico to people being gunned down in the street in the Philippines

              Again, you are assuming that two countries still under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie have the same exact response to drugs being illegal as a country run by communists.

              That’s to say nothing of the horrors inflicted on all of those countries by the imperial core and CIA, which have a vested interest in destabilizing both of those countries through… you guessed it… drugs :fidel-wut:

              the fact remains that material conditions in countries who are essentially still capitalist are not particularly different from the west

              the imperialism and socialism understander has logged on. this sentence makes the rest of the talking points even more impossible to take seriously

              that there are large numbers of drug users in these countries and that will continue for the foreseeable future, and they are being harmed by the war on drugs in the same way that people are harmed in the west

              Saying China has “a war on drugs” and comparing it to the United States is ignorant. It is based in chauvinism. It is incorrect and boring.

              Frankly, it’s also insulting to compare the horrors of the American backed Duterte regime to China as well. Especially since he is engaged in a decades long struggle against communist groups in that country

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                • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                  You have no idea what your talking about. You have no idea of the conditions of the working class in China nor of drug addicts there. You do not understand the international nature of the drug war. Your opinion is an incoherent and idealistic nonsense. And you are disgustingly smug for someone so uninformed.

                  :wojak-nooo::speech-l:

                  The working class in China are more free than the working class of the United States.

                  :deng-smile:

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                    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                      Juvenile idiots like you make this site a real pain in the ass. You are the other side of the coin to reddit anarchists yelling about tankies.

                      No investigation, no right to speak.

                      :xi-lib-tears:

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                        • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                          Right, because I’ve actually lived for years in an aes country and I’ve also been a drug addict, what is your opinion based on? What you read on an Internet forum? Don’t quote mao at me, take a minute and consider why you have such a strong opinion on something you have no fucking idea about, and why you’re acting like a smug little kid trying to win the internet

                          mhmm alright. Not giving you doxable info about my life, but I can comfortably stand behind what I’m saying and believe.

                          :fidel-cool:

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                            • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                              Basement dweller

                              Basement apartments are typically some of the most affordable housing you can get. sorry sweetie, this is classist 💅

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                  You have no idea what your talking about

                  also *you’re

                  ftfy

                  :che-smile:

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        • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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          Yes, it is chauvinist to declare a universal moral ruling onto a different culture with a different history.

          Drugs have been used for Western imperialism into China before, they likely don't want a repeat.

          America's war on drugs is an explicit war on black people and the poor. The same can not be said for China's stance.

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