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  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    So there it is, laid out plain and clear for the libs: the continuation of this system and the survival of human civilization are now in total conflict; only one of the two can possibly happen now.

    They'll still insist on a :vote:-based solution, sure. But what happens when they get slaughtered in November? Will they finally wake the fuck up, or will they just mope at brunch? Stay tuned, folks.

    • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      There's some people that realize the problem, but reading through the reddit thread on Brandon saying he's okay with an exception to the filibuster to codify Roe v. Wade, there's a bunch of people screaming that we need to vote, that if we touch the filibuster, Republicans will do worse, and that there's nothing we can really do because of a constitutional crisis should Congress pass a law directly at odds against the Supreme Court, but also don't think about gerrymandering. I don't see these people still violently against anything other than voting to ever wake up. I mean for God's sake they think they'll get Collins and Murkowski to defect to counter Manchin and Sinema.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        that if we touch the filibuster, Republicans will do worse

        This is a fucking baby brained take. The Dems basically never used the filibuster when Trump was in office because they know full well if they use it the Republicans have no problem just ignoring it. It’s a rule that only applies to democrats.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          he Dems basically never used the filibuster when Trump was in office because they know full well if they use it the Republicans have no problem just ignoring it. It’s a rule that only applies to democrats.

          They did. The biggest bill the was passed under Trump was the 2017 tax cuts which passed under budget reconciliation ( the way you can avoid the filibuster once per year). The filibuster definitely limited what the Trump govt could do (till Dems won the House)

          The difference is that Republicans can advance their goals with the Federalist Society people on the Supreme Court (as we are seeing) so they benefit more from the filibuster being in place.

      • D61 [any]
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        2 years ago

        Libs still can't seem to get that the Republicans/conservatives/fascists are totally willing to kill the hostages they take.

      • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        For a whole two days /r/ politics has no posts about trump. Now they are back at it. I don't think go vote posters are organic

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Supreme Court could rule that it's illegal to vote for non-Republicans, and the libs would STILL say the only solution is to :vote:

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      They’ll still insist on a :vote:

      Supreme court just took up a voting laws case for next term :capitalist-laugh:

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck #BREAKING: #SCOTUS grants certiorari in Moore v. Harper; will decide next Term whether state legislatures can override state courts on questions of state law where federal elections are concerned (the "independent state legislature doctrine"):

          https://supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/063022zor_5he6.pdf

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            OK, but what are the specifics of this case? Is this case seeing if states are allowed to ignore election results, like quite a lot of Republicans want to do?

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They’ll still insist on a -based solution, sure. But what happens when they get slaughtered in November? Will they finally wake the fuck up, or will they just mope at brunch?

      I was talking with some of my lib friends about this who are struggling to come to terms with the reality of it....but in my anecdotal experience they're kinda getting it. If they do wake up though, the problem we'll have to deal with is that this is going to require things getting to the point where people are willing to literally throw their bodies in front of this to try and stop this thing.

      I don't blame them for being terrified and not wanting to. I'm on the wrong side of 35 so I don't harbor illusions about being solid snake under the right circumstances anymore like every idiot dude thinks he would be given the chance.

      • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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        2 years ago

        My work chat actually included the phrase "violent revolution" today, and not from me. In a public forum. I think some folks are actually getting fed up maybe. It's probably just :copium:

    • pink_mist [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I thought I'd find a 538 article telling Dems it was still safe to brunch but I guess that wouldn't be the case. I was almost certain 2022 would hold steady and 2024 would be when they jerk the wheel right, but I guess were going to veer into it first.