So I'm definitely guilty of having done this in the past. Mostly because I was fucking pissed that we spent all of 2003-2016 arguing with liberals and or chuds, that Muslims deserved to have a right to practice their religion, while the entire country / continent became more and more openly racist. Part of that debate was the fake concern-trolling about countries in the Middle East having shitty womens rights, and then these fucking pricks turn around and immediately implement Biblical doctrine, based entirely on their own completely made up interpretations of the bible. I will admit, it was pretty funny to see the most avowed anti-feminists make the same arguments that Wahabists make, which is why I've made these comparisons in the past, but I've given up on making the argument that they're hypocrites. Chuds are functionally immune from being called hypocrites by virtue of being dumber than rocks, so I'm just gonna stop making these comparisons anymore.
immediately implement Biblical doctrine, based entirely on their own completely made up interpretations of the bible
what no one considers when talking about historical abortion laws is that safe abortion is a recent thing and in the past it had a high likelyhood of killing the women so there was a danger of quacks misleading women about the risks involved in a proceedure that seemingly solved all their problems
There are so many angles to this debate, and seemingly none of them support the positions of the Anti-abortion crowd. Also, I happen to not be Christian, so I don't particularly care about what the Bible says about Abortion, since I by definition am not bound by it. I am however bound by the laws that these freaks are pushing out, which is scaring the crap out of me.
The really stupid part is that bans on abortion don't even particularly help prevent abortions what does is cheaper housing and support for parents in poverty. For all of the cruelty and invective in this argument it's telling that no one is able to think outside the bounds of "I think it's wrong so it should be dealt with via the criminal system" instead of thinking on what would actually achieve the goal they want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/3415/
literally all abortion bans do is increase the rate at which the women getting them die the cruelty is the point
The trial of bitter water could be interpreted as an abortion ritual in the Old Testament but I forget the logic people use to deflect away from it. Ironically it was the printing press and translating the Bible that led to major reforms in the church but nowadays it seems like nobody actually reads the damn thing and just put anything they want in it. Homosexuality is equivalent to eating shellfish in it but they'll rage about "the gays" while eating shrimp cocktail.
the new testament does actually pretty clearly abolish the no shellfish rule but tatoo's are technically forbidden and no one cares about that.
Also the reforms weren't all positive witchcraft trials really took off as a part of the protestant reformation whereas previously the idea that people could do magic was regarded as heresy and therefore belief in witches and witchcraft trials was not inline with church teachings
Yeah I made this argument once to a conservative Catholic and he eventually just said "I don't care; they deserve it. They shouldn't have had sex." It's just misogyny, not morality like they claim.
Ah yes Jesus famously in favor of punishing people and not forgiving them. It's not like Jesus introduced himself as a public religious figure by prevented a mob from stoning an adulteress to death or anything
So I'm definitely guilty of having done this in the past. Mostly because I was fucking pissed that we spent all of 2003-2016 arguing with liberals and or chuds, that Muslims deserved to have a right to practice their religion, while the entire country / continent became more and more openly racist. Part of that debate was the fake concern-trolling about countries in the Middle East having shitty womens rights, and then these fucking pricks turn around and immediately implement Biblical doctrine, based entirely on their own completely made up interpretations of the bible. I will admit, it was pretty funny to see the most avowed anti-feminists make the same arguments that Wahabists make, which is why I've made these comparisons in the past, but I've given up on making the argument that they're hypocrites. Chuds are functionally immune from being called hypocrites by virtue of being dumber than rocks, so I'm just gonna stop making these comparisons anymore.
what no one considers when talking about historical abortion laws is that safe abortion is a recent thing and in the past it had a high likelyhood of killing the women so there was a danger of quacks misleading women about the risks involved in a proceedure that seemingly solved all their problems
There are so many angles to this debate, and seemingly none of them support the positions of the Anti-abortion crowd. Also, I happen to not be Christian, so I don't particularly care about what the Bible says about Abortion, since I by definition am not bound by it. I am however bound by the laws that these freaks are pushing out, which is scaring the crap out of me.
The Bible pretty much doesn't mention abortion.
The really stupid part is that bans on abortion don't even particularly help prevent abortions what does is cheaper housing and support for parents in poverty. For all of the cruelty and invective in this argument it's telling that no one is able to think outside the bounds of "I think it's wrong so it should be dealt with via the criminal system" instead of thinking on what would actually achieve the goal they want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/3415/ literally all abortion bans do is increase the rate at which the women getting them die the cruelty is the point
The trial of bitter water could be interpreted as an abortion ritual in the Old Testament but I forget the logic people use to deflect away from it. Ironically it was the printing press and translating the Bible that led to major reforms in the church but nowadays it seems like nobody actually reads the damn thing and just put anything they want in it. Homosexuality is equivalent to eating shellfish in it but they'll rage about "the gays" while eating shrimp cocktail.
the new testament does actually pretty clearly abolish the no shellfish rule but tatoo's are technically forbidden and no one cares about that.
Also the reforms weren't all positive witchcraft trials really took off as a part of the protestant reformation whereas previously the idea that people could do magic was regarded as heresy and therefore belief in witches and witchcraft trials was not inline with church teachings
Yeah I made this argument once to a conservative Catholic and he eventually just said "I don't care; they deserve it. They shouldn't have had sex." It's just misogyny, not morality like they claim.
Ah yes Jesus famously in favor of punishing people and not forgiving them. It's not like Jesus introduced himself as a public religious figure by prevented a mob from stoning an adulteress to death or anything
:jesus-cleanse: