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It's the same reason that anyone involved in the energy industry is going to end up in Houston. It's the center of where everything is and it's where all the best jobs are. If you want to spend your career in the sticks, you can, but you'll never go as far and never be as well-paid as you will in the place where everyone else is.
It's the same reason activists cluster in big cities and you will find few of them in the suburbs.
It’s this one. We’ve been being pressured to move to LA a lot lately.
Also la entertainment business people just want you to be there if you’re doing business with them, even if it’s a convo you could have over the phone they’d rather meet up to have over priced coffee or at the very least not have to think about the time zones.
And a lot of those are last second snap decisions so You end up missing opportunities by not being able to take advantage of them the second they arrive like you would if you’re there
If you want a more direct answer to what’s happening to the scenes, gentrification and real estate financialization are shutting down venues and making the existing ones take less risks on small bands. But small bands need to be able to work for the talent pool to remain healthy, so the easiest way to do that is consolidate physically
Because they want to get bigger and more successful thats why. And there is a “limit” to how big you can get in a local scene in a smaller city.
Even LA artists from the 90s dont stick around their same neighborhood (with the exception of Snoop who still lives in Long Beach)
OP you don’t have to move to LA don’t worry your youtube channel analyzing the Marxist themes in Barbie On Ice will do just fine if you stay in Albany, Texas
And if you get tired you can move to Albany, California
Or Albany, Illinois
And so on
Lots of Albany’s for you to choose to live in
There’s an Albany, Pennsylvania dont worry
And if there isnt we can make one
This has been a thing since Hollywood took off. It happened with TV, Youtubers, Twitch Streamers, and now TikTokers. People here have already mentioned how it's more about connections and rubbing shoulders with other people in your field. If your goal is to climb the social ladder and gain connections for bigger deals, then there's a good chance you're moving to LA. Filmmakers move to LA because Hollywood and because the weather is better suited for it.
I personally enjoy it when I can see a variety of content from all over the country that allows people to see different perspectives that aren't LA. Some Youtubers I enjoyed watching like James Rolfe or CoreyKenshin ended up staying in their cities and are doing just fine. They also don't have any grand plans to become huge multimedia giants and that's usually what happens when people move out there when they're already successful. They want to be even bigger.
James Rolfe did have plans to get bigger. He wanted to be a filmmaker. But that dream went down the toilet the day he posted his misogynist non-review of Ghostbusters. He didn't even see the movie! Now for every job he applies for for the rest of his life, the first search result will by the NY Times article calling him out for his bigotry. Goodbye Hollywood career! Hope it was worth it to trash a movie just because the stars were all women.
I assume his film career not panning out the way he intended had way, way more to do with the AVGN movie sucking than his dumb Ghostbusters video
Lots of successful people's first films sucked. However, going in front of the whole world to tell us that you feel victimized by strong female leads is indeed a career-killer in Hollywood. There will never be a second film.
Most successful people in Hollywood were well connected before their successive failures. AVGN got his one shot from crowdfunding from his fans which he can't do again after all of those fans are burnt on the first bad movie. No doubt that review would be a career killer except that his career was already dead.
Yeah, while his refusal to see the 2016 Ghostbusters was incredibly childish and dumb (though on brand for a man who's brand is that he's a big manchild), the media response to it was completely blown out of proportion
When the NY Times calls your work borderline bigoted, yes that means he's a bigot. It's a loud, clear dog whistle to anyone who would ever hire him. Or defend him.
Why are people jumping out of the woodwork to take the side of this misogynist? WTF? Had to glance at the top banner of this site to check whether or not I was on :reddit-logo: for a moment.
Mostly because it seems you didn't even read the article you keep using as a cudgel, which doesn't even say what you think it says
It said what it needed to, to the kind of people who do the hiring in Hollywood.
Doesn't change the fact that he's a bigoted misogynist man-child whose career-killing move was bravely endorsing the chud narrative about Ghostbusters.
Is there really anyone who still cares at all about Ghostbusters (2016), let alone a video some guy made about it?
Sort of. He had plans to be a filmmaker and made a movie in LA. He then realized the difficulties of making a film in Hollywood and stayed in Philly to focus on his web series.
I guess the NY Times article pointing out he's a misogynist had nothing to do with it. That video he made was a career-ending train wreck. He did the same thing to his career as Michael Richards. Even Richards standing next to Seinfeld and humbling himself with profuse apologies wasn't enough. Rolfe hasn't apologized one bit. Because he's not sorry he trashed a movie because his fragile sense of male supremacy was threatened.
I don't think it was tbh. I remember a lot of people giving him the benefit of the doubt during that time. He didn't really engage with any of the criticism and came out unscathed from it. His current downfall has more to do with him having two daughters and handing over production to a private group. You can tell he really isn't in it anymore and would rather be doing anything else. I'm more impressed that a gaming Youtube channel didn't jump on the right-wing train and make videos about how he "beat cancel culture" or some shit like that.
Nah it's more like he made his big movie and it sucked and even fans hated it because he tried to make it mainstream (he cast a young actress to be his love interest and gave himself an even younger black friend). He spent a fortune to film in socal too.
Because the people who can make you more successful are all in LA. When you go to parties in Ohio, it's not full of executives and producers and celebrities. It's already there and if you want to increase your chances of making it big and be in proximity to those people then you have to be there. You can't fly there from Minnesota once a week.
Same reason why finance people move to NYC.
fools cluster to feel safer in numbers, where the apparatuses of state security can more easily police them and the forces of capital can more efficiently direct them.
only we stubborn kings and lords of all creation can dream to imagine in the rich tapestry of long shadowed places, unknown to these lemmings and their mass suicide pact.
stay strong, brother. soon the well of nostalgic mass culture will run dry and these self-appointed tastemakers will strain at the silence to hear the music and majesty of our stories.
I'm a So Cal native no longer in So Cal.
We have one season back home and it's called "fucking awesome." It's so awesome people migrate from all over the world to live there and live 5 people to a studio apartment. It's so awesome people who can't live in it talk shit about it because deep inside they wish their shitty climate wasn't so, well, shitty.
Invariably someone will bring up how much they like snow. 2 things.
Number 1: You know what's a fun thing to do in the snow? Pack your shit and move back to California, that's what. Snow sucks. Rain sucks. Humidity sucks. Seasons are fucking stupid if you have the option to opt out.
Number 2: We have snow in So Cal. We drive to it, fuck around in it, and drive back down to where the weather doesn't suck.
Snow sucks
objectively wrong and you've clearly never had school cancelled due to snow as a kid and spent the day getting in snowball fights with your friends
Thanks to remote learning, snow days themselves are now canceled. Thanks, Covid!
hey now we had school cancelled due to excessive heat. most of our classrooms were not air conditioned
doesn't count as excessive heat also means you can't run around and play with your friends so it's objectively worse
Plus if you're too cold you can put on a sweater if you're hot there's nothing for it
Hey, don't do ska dirty like that. It's good!
Sobs on her checkerboard vans
Best ska in the country is also in So Cal, sans maybe The Slackers out of NYC.
Yeah but the ska fans are in LA and OC, so the slackers are there constantly.
Dave knows who butters their bread.
Oh yeah. He's from So Cal, too.
Not in socal it's not you heathen. You take that fucking hella bullshit north of Santa Barbara at least.
LOL. Hella is some SF bullshit. Right up there with putting rice in burritos. Fucking disgusting.
30 minutes from whatever you want -- mountain beaches snow desert metropolis. I wish I was wealthy enough to still live there
We have one season back home and it’s called “fucking awesome.”
I lived in LA for a decade, and there are absolutely two seasons. There's great weather and summer, but summer starts in mid-July and ends in late October. Summer is not fun. It gets just muggy enough to make the heat worse and it doesn't cool off until well after midnight.
I'll upbear you because I feel sorry for you.
(Austin does have some really good food)
I'm always sus of Mexican food in Texas, not because it's bad but because it's probably Tex Mex.
Austin had some pretty good Mexican food carts that are not Tex Mex. Nopales and but I doubt people know much about that cause the whites probably think it is the ghetto.
The film industry put down roots in southern California early because of how consistently sunny it is. Makes it easier to shoot.
A century later all the big names in just about every creative industry are there, attracting all the middling names who in turn attract all their no-name acquaintances trying for their shot to become middling names themselves.
The film industry was established there because patent law in California was a lot less rigorous than the east coast, which meant filmmakers could escape Edison's vicious monopoly on film tech at the time, which he formed a consortium to enforce by hiring mobsters and federal marshals. Hollywood was formed to get away from Edison's iron fisted intellectual property bullshit.
Also the Mexican food was alright but I’ve gotten better in Austin TX is I’m being honest
Enough :stalin-gun-1::meow-shining:
Texas “left” Mexico because the white Americans in Texas wanted to keep slavery when Mexico outlawed it since their white anglo population was significant enough that the Mexican government that just went through a revolution (and also just barely came into being) couldn't do much about it.
Ok but the california gold rushes wiped out 80% of the natives there so glass houses
Eh, it started under Mexico and Spain (The California Missions were basically genocide plantations) and was intensified by the USA, by the time the Gold Rush Happened, California was a US Territory
James Polk’s massive hate boner for Mexico after Mexico lost the Mexican-American war (which was incensed over territorial disputes over Texas before the Civil War funnily enough) and also the USA’s version of Lebensraum, Manifest Destiny.
California didnt really have a large enough Mexican population compared to the Southern parts of Mexico to defend from the USA, the population boom didnt come until much later
Tex-Mex is miles better than Mexican food from the interior of Mexico.
Fight me.
Like I enjoy some of the burritos I've had in California but the whole American southwest has its own intriguing types of Mexican food. Like southern Arizona has Sonoran Mexican food I can't find elsewhere. New Mexico rules green chili related dishes. Etc. But you talk to someone from California and it's like they can't possibly accept that everything in California isn't automatically the best.
When you pay $5000 a month and have gotten cosmetic plastic surgeries to belong its important to believe its worth it.
LA is ridiculous they built a European style city in the middle of a ludicrously hot swamp and wonder why it's too hot when they're using buildings designed for France, New York and the UK
LA as in Los Angeles not Louisiana.
New Orleans is too damn hot though, true.
It's also Lower Alabama, in case we want to exile bad artists to the worst of all possible L.A.s.
really? that seems so unbelievable given how dry Southern California is.
yeah I guess building a city on the wetlands fucked up the water cycle. Also I had a science teacher talk about how California fucked up their clean water supply by drilling for oil
water that now has to be pumped from the Colorado River, which is now historically low and depleting...
damn we really fucked up some of the best land on earth.
Part of the reason it's so dried out is because they paved over the marsh so water doesn't collect in the soil, it runs out to the ocean.
How does heat affect architecture and urban design? Sounds like an interesting topic
I don't know much about it but I know that for example the reason that Dubai is so hot as to be unlivable without major air conditoning is that it was built to the European style and not to the more traditional and sensible ways of building a city in the desert.
The heat of the place should have been accounted for when they built it
concrete is also really stupid in hot places https://time.com/5655074/concrete-urban-heat/
To meet all the other creative people who have moved to LA I assume
bc it's where everyone else is
it's like "oh if i want to hangout with all the ppl who i like and collaborate with them i should just move here"
- it's like a great place if you actually have money
Connections and networking. The CTH podcast can't last forever, nor are their creative energies invested into news and politics
I don't know why people praise L.A.'s weather. It's shit. It's a semi-desert climate, so there are no seasons. Just the same weather, all year long. Call me crazy but I like it to be cold in the winter and warm in the summer, and maybe even have a thunderstorm once in a while. In L.A. once the temperature dips into the 60s (brrr!) everyone goes into the closet and brings out their black leather jackets.
You're not crazy, people aren't a monolith they have preferences
Not everyone wants four seasons a year
Years have four seasons. Wanting the same weather every day is like the midwesterners who eat the same brown meat and corn and potatoes every day. You're missing out on so much richness in life by insisting on the blandest option. Bland is better!
It's more like eating your favorite meal every day. The single season isn't bland it's the most popular weather
It's a fair point that eating the same thing every day can be boring. But it's not bland.
This also ignores that one can also miss out on richness in life by being rained out
i havent lived somewhere with four seasons but id like to try it sometime.
here its basically horrible summer for 9 months a year then its kind of cool sometimes and hot sometimes and then it freezes once maybe in february
I grew up in a very warm country and I really don't like the cold. So Southern California is a sensible place to be.
this is unrelated but one of my friends said her mom wore a leather jacket all year round in college. in houston.
there are no seasons
False, LA has two seasons: November-June and July-October. The first is wonderful to live in. The second is living hell.
For filming (especially back when they used actual film) you want a lot of consistent light and no surprise rain. It probably wasn't just the weather, I vaguely remember there having been some tax incentives too, but it's at least part of the reason why the big movie (and by extension all sorts of entertainment) production hub of the US is there still.
Southern California has probably the best weather in the continental US by any popular metric
But not everyone likes the same weather
I love rain when it's raining when I want. Fuck it for ruining exercise routines and making me lug around a soggy umbrella all day
idk if i would like rain all the time but i also dont want it to be forest fire weather
ive never been to LA so maybe im just talking out my ass but that seems like a pretty obvious downside
Survey (literally) says....yes
Everyone loves to "love" the rain. But the truth is that if there was a "Rain / No Rain" voting button in every house, you likely would never get a majority of folks who want it to rain at any particular time or day
people weird as hell for that one its gone through periods of no rain here where i live in the south and its horrible, everything dies. i didnt love living somewhere where it rained a lot but theres surely a balance to be had
The balance is had....it doesn't rain often in southern California. Never has. It's balanced.
You seem to be describing an example of climate change
agree to disagree. that sounds horrible and im glad i dont live there.
I'm not sure where we disagree. But yeah if you don't like southern California weather it would be terrible to live there, I agree, since a ton of the property value is tied to the weather
It's pretty clear there's a cohort of people out there who want the exact same weather every single day, forever.
Just move to the tropics, they don't have seasons either.
