Pretty much. I occasionally cross paths with these types of lunatics on a couple of design / creative messageboards and you would be surprised (not really) at the crossover between the fucking Thinking-Logic-Reason brigade with just awful opinions on everything and creative professionals - especially when it comes to LGBT issues - just truly rancid.
Like, if you made a diagram with 'Reactionary', 'Spiteful and Miserable at the Modern World', and Lobster Daddy / IDW Dorks; in the middle would be graphic designers. Just the most wretched and contrarian set of people I have had the misfortune to interact with.
An-caps. Rationally, they're mostly harmless and insignificant. If anything, they really need to be protected from themselves, because whenever they try to put their ideas into practice they end up getting mauled by bears or crossing a cartel and getting shot or some shit, because they just have no idea of how the world works on a fundamental level. But I spent too much time arguing with them and started to really despise them, especially the way they twist and distort the meanings of words and say the most ridiculous bullshit.
If someone shoots you, the reason it's bad is because they vandalized your property, specifically, your body. A sit-in is an example of violent protest because you're violating property rights. Stabbing someone through the heart in self defense is not violent, because it was justified and "by definition" it's impossible for something to be both violent and justified. If a sailor saves a drowning man on the condition that he serves him for free for the rest of his life, that's a totally voluntary agreement that was in no way coerced, it's not slavery and the sailor is fully justified in making that demand, but if the drowning man later tells him to shove it, he's in the wrong for violating the agreement. Bosses should be able to trade promotions for sexual favors, because if you don't like it you can just work somewhere else. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
I think part of the problem is that online you don't know the age of the person you're arguing with, and when I used to engaged with them I defaulted to treating them as peers, and then I'd get frustrated that they didn't understand things that anyone with any life experience would understand. Like in retrospect I was probably just cussing out teenagers half the time lmao.
Anti-idpol "marxists" (they're chuds in red paint). The ones who fail to show solidarity on certain issues, but especially the ones who "idpol" lives rent free in their heads. They constantly go off about how "idpol" is ruining Marxism and they are always the first to bring it up even when nobody else was talking about it. They'll make threads about it. They'll make speeches about it. They'll cry about it during meetings. They'll try to start a caucus over it in a party setting. They'll do the libs' work for them and point out unfortunate instances of Marx being weirdly racist in the 1800s as "proof" that "idpol doesn't matter to REAL marxists" while ignoring things like Marx congratulating Lincoln on Emancipation, Lenin denouncing antisemitism, Stalin denouncing racial chauvinism, and Mao saying women hold up half the sky. They'll ignore Marxist participation in every Womens' Liberation movement, every anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist movement, every anti-racist struggle. They'll do the libs' work for them and they'll say "none of this stuff is class struggle, only class struggle matters" while ignoring that all these things are absolutely part of the class struggle, and forms of class struggle. They'll whine endlessly about how idpol is "liberal" and taints their movement, and in the process they GIVE LIBS CREDIT for things socialists actually did. Either ignorant or deliberate wreckers. Don't care.
Their "but we need to focus on the majority of workers, not just a small subset" spiel falls apart quickly when you point out the majority of workers are women lol
The American “intelligentsia.”
Oh boy, these credentialed, “smart,” “intelligent,” “deep,” “provocative” ghouls are infuriatingly America-centered in their worldview and frame of analysis. It’s absolutely shocking how little curiosity let alone knowledge they have of how the world works outside of the PMC order. And they all think they are so fucking smart. And they are so obsessed with degrees and status and prestige of what journal you publish in. And they have the magic of turning all pressing issues of the world into meaningless empty circle jerks.
Like, anti-intellectualism is bad, but holy fuck I have to actively fight my slide into anti-intellectualism after spending a decade among the “learned.”
Edit: yes there’s absolutely self-loathing in this rant
This one.
And unfortunately I'd also mention that this isn't just an American thing, its everywhere. The middle class sees their barely worthwhile higher education as a validation of their worldview in and of itself, as if having a degree itself gives legitimacy to whatever shit they believe. Its basically having a license to say and believe the most stupid shit.
It is funny because anti-intellectualism is really bad too, but when a chud says "college is brainwashing" I'm confident it is pretty easy for a socialist to make an argument in favor of this in some circumstances, economics or politics(remember the user that was posting their shit professor takes on this site) it is in fact extremely obvious.
And yet it feels very demoralizing having to still have to be responsible and make them understand that on the other hand it is not all bad and people need to learn to be doctors and engineers etc and capitalism is the root problem here.
I mean, increasingly all of them...
Techpeople who see the problems but earnestly think the solution is algorithmic improvement have to be up there but if I had to pick a worst...
... Journos. Particually liberal journalists. I've come into a depressing amount of contact with them and they're awful, largely un-selfaware, petty, smug, and largely useless in the extreme. I'm not sure I've ever met someone who made a real living from that line of work that I didn't think was simply a liar or an idiot, and often both. This probably a bit 'trust me bro' but it's late I've had a couple, and I need to sleep.
I hate libs who think they won an argument because they called out the other person's poor spelling. Shut the fuck up, nerd.
And I hate libs who say shit like, "Ha! Don't they realize that the Thin Blue Line flag goes against the flag codes??? Such patriots 🙄 🙄 "
Okay that second one got me immediately fighting mad.
Who the fuck do these people think care?
Suburbanites who think they're cowboys. It's such a weird delusion to have to put up with if you live in an area infested with them
Having moved to a small town, it's townies
Just small-minded people who think that a Dominos setting up shop on Main street is a personal affront to them and the racist guy who runs the other pizza shop in town
Just small-minded people who think that a Dominos setting up shop on Main street is a personal affront to them and the racist guy who runs the other pizza shop in town
corporate sprawl, destroying any last semblance of local culture or idiosyncrasy, is good, actually
Evangelicals. They're always pushing for the most extreme positions and are the sole reason gay marriage still hasn't been legalized. I hate the Capitol City liberals that consume Anglo media almost exclusively and talk about how much they hate the country. They're almost always hardcore neoliberals and think that foreign businesses haven't "invested" enough.
The ones who know what "tankie" means and use it as a thought-terminating cliche
