I’m generally chill with keffals but god damn unless you’re about to drop the next fucking Epstein-level scandal, which I doubt, dial it back. you’re not the next Lenin just because you’re dropping Google Docs.
You get this vibe from, like, microparties too. when they post like they are ushering in the revolution or commanding significant power when they don’t exist outside of Cleveland and are the product of 3 consecutive splinters. We get to grandiose-post when we have material power, but we don’t have material power, so it just comes off as… well, sad.
Sorta like in Disco Elysium’s endgame when
the deserter’s just refusing to move on and adapt to the present conditions, living vicariously through his past achievements and pretending he’s still fighting the good fight but in the present he’s just executing on his petty grudges and calling it politic.
It’s… what, pathetic? Pitiful? I don’t know the right word for it. It’s sad and it spiritually hurts when I read shit like this and remind myself how unreality this stuff is even though I’m not the one making myself out to do this as a public figure.
I think there’s pressure on streamers to do this. It can’t just be, “I’m mixing up my schedule because I’m bored and want to focus on this side project that’s caught my attention”. It has to be like, “I understand that I am letting down you, my loyal fans, by not streaming for 14 hours this weekend. But understand that I would not do this heinous thing if I did not believe it was a moral good with potential to give you a massive dopamine hit once I finally come back online”. Because fans will legitimately talk like that about people taking a break. Not a lot of fans, but enough, especially with how vocal they tend to be
I have a growing part of me that believes the internet is an inherent net negative for most situations and needs to be decimated. Not in a reactionary “this thing makes me upset and therefore needs to not exist” way. Like I think there are forces that come with removing social barriers between physical communities that are as disastrous socially as everyone suddenly being able to hear each others’ uncensored thoughts would be. It’s an amount of information that is too much to process and too difficult to curate productively.
Or potentially a lighter version of this idea: even if the internet could be positive in a socialist society, under capitalism it’s as healthy and productive for the working class as cigarettes are. It’s an indulgence which can be used opportunistically, but otherwise recuperates revolutionary on a scale never before seen in human history
It was initially fine until every website linked to and from the same five megacorporations, allowing their algorithms to shoebox you with all the most extreme opinions that will keep you engaged and therefore exposed more frequently to advertising.
I mean, I wouldn't call the old internet fine but it was better
What you think of as "the internet" is realy the omnipresence of Google and all the social media sites. If you could take direct control of Google and completely change the algorithm you would completely change the access to actual useful information along with making people realize right wing ideology is not as popular as it seems.
And on the other side you would solve most of it by removing some of the shittier sites like FB, Reddit, 4chan etc while severely changing how others like Twitter works.
China is a working somewhat successful example of this, obviously Chinese netizens have their own brainworms but the premise is still valid.
The internet is by far a net positive to humanity imo. The fundamental problem as I said is that "the internet" became just Google and social media sites.
removing social barriers between physical communities
this is cool and good though
The Internet is fine if it's used as a repository of human knowledge. It's by and large terrible if used for socialization. Take Youtube for example. Youtube is at its best and most useful when you're searching for "how to do X" whether it's how to bake a cake, how to take apart a rifle, or how to get rid of weeds. Youtube is at its worst and most detrimental to society when the videos are about drama bullshit or diving into the vapid lives of Youtubers attempting to form a parasocial relationship with their marks.
Remember that you're talking about a website owned by a massive international corporation that is not optimizing its design for pro-sociality. What equivalent websites would look like if it was deliberately designed not to drive ad revenue but to help society is hard to say from where we are.
i am so glad I don't know who any of these people are nor will I ever know
the only political stream I've ever watched was that one time V*ush idiot got so mad at Luna Oi to the point he defended the Nazi interpretation of Jews and it was the most pointless thing I've ever watched
Luna don't miss. Great content all around but I particularly enjoy her dunking on shitheads.
Luna getting into the long twitter fight with vaush was 100% cringe and I blocked her after that lol.
I enjoy her dunking on shitheads
I blocked her for dunking on shitheads
The two genders.
Also she is friends with :funny-clown-hammer: man which really should have been sign enough on its own
There's a ton of kayfabe amongst Twitch streamers.
A term that comes from pro-wrestling, where people were (for example) best friends irl but played characters who were bitter enemies and had to keep up appearances when they were in public. The insinuation here is that streamers that supposedly have animosity towards each other are business partners playing up invented conflict to drive interest.
I was going to ask if it was possible the post was on him, since he's for sure still up to more shit
a left-aligned public internet figure, that’s pretty much all.
well, also the reason Destiny is indefinitely banned from twitch streaming IIRC, which is a W I will hand her
I think she got "famous" by ratioing Peterson on twitter or something. That's pretty much how far her fame goes I think.
A lot of these internet microcelebrities develop ridiculously large egos.
What getting a little bit of attention does to an attention-starved mf
Like when you get used to being hungry, but then eat one bite and suddenly feel like you're about to starve to death
This is obviously a joke and its weird that this thread is so hostile toward a shitpost.
i've been watching hasan daily for like 3 weeks straight on the job, and unless i wasn't paying attention, not much at all like what I'm complaining about has been done like this.
More specifically, I'm complaining about the "earth-shaking" manifesto-drop grandiosism that tends to come from people too embedded in micropolitics of internet discourse, whilst simultaneously commanding a reasonable following, who are hopped up on hegelian idealism as their version of praxis.
Also, even then, it's not like I'm not applying this to how streamers talk in general. Twitch culture is a bit whack IMO.
Yeah but Hasan is a normal person who goes outside and talks to actual people and has friends and stuff
I got banned from keffals discord for saying the DPRK wasn't intentionally starving it's citizens for laffs , and have not paid attention to them since
Ironic since apparently Keffalls is (or at least used to be) a proud :tank: who was very hardline USSR supporter
yeah, it was one of her mods, they dropped into the middle of the (very healthy) conversation and went all "don't you know they are evil???" and flipped out. very odd!
shake the political livestreaming scene
it'll be just like the end of a movie where the authorities show up to arrest the big bad businessman who's behind it all!
same energy as all of these libs how drop a manifesto of fire and thunder directed at conservatives and fash only to write :vote: at the end.
“Political live-streaming scene”
The fact that this is a thing makes me want to kill myself. WTF. :gun-hubris:
because they feel the need to justify their existence as a "leftist" while doing absolutely nothing but enriching themselves
Cushvlog is essential because it basically disenchants you of any idea that media consumption or posting actually constitutes 'leftism' or even politics at all. Being invested in this tech oligarch-mediated debate culture is deeply harmful to the psyche.
Vague liberal leftism which is assigned the value judgement of 'good' in the west replaces actual critique, a self-identification as 'socialist' or 'communist' without any action items replaces organization, and you become transfixed on the ultraliberal idea that you can change the world by simply having the best ideas and making the best arguments.
uhh this feels more like a chud thing than a left thing, in general
"nothing will be the same ever again after Q drops this next truth bomb, patriots in control, great awakening 1688"
