And if it is, do we know why?

Like, all I can think of is if it's transmitted by touch and so it's spreading in that community more I guess?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Yes but it's entirely because the first superspreader for monkeypox was a gay event. This made gay men the majority carrier.

    It spreads among straight people exactly the same there just aren't as many carriers among straight people right now. A single superspreader event could change that.

    • Sandinband [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      This plus gay men have a good fucking reason to get any new skin issues checked out (AIDS crisis) and in the US only gay men can get tested in a lot of areas

    • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Interesting. I haven't exactly been reckless but I wonder how the trans community (specifically trans girls, for me and my friends' sake) has been affected, tbh I assumed the factor was the virus being spread by anal sex, although the gay and trans communities are more closely connected than others

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It's not the sex that's transmitting it (although it contributes). It's close physical content. It's primarily spreading gay man to gay man right now because that's the circle it's in.

        If it has a super spreader among trans women who are very social then I think it will spread among them, but in my opinion trans people actually have quite limited social lives relatively to gay men who have VERY active social lives with other gay men. That's not to say that there aren't some very active trans social scenes too, but comparatively they're on quite different levels.

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          gay men who have VERY active social lives with other gay men

          🥲

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            This only shows as a square character-not-found symbol for me. What was it supposed to be?

            • invo_rt [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              hah! Sorry about that. Just a smiling face with a single tear emoji. I was merely poking fun at the notion of a gay man having an active social life with other gay men whereas I, a gay man, do not have an active social life.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Ahhh I see! Yeah I'm not suggesting that it's inherent to all gay men or anything, just that a specific gay party circuit and club scene exists. There's a straight one too and that doesn't mean straight people that are less socially active don't exist. Lotta people don't like bars and clubs.

        • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Honestly, that's a good point! Thanks for your opinion, tbh I've only recently become comfortable enough with myself to have a s*x life and hearing that it spread through gay guys made me think of it as a new type of std to be worried about (not that I won't take precautions for all the other diseases as well!)

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah it's not an std. It's skin contact disease that got spread at a big gay event with lots of skin contact and now it's spreading skin to skin among what I assume are the kind of social circles with gay men partying and clubbing. Since these men are mainly socialising with each other and have limited skin to skin contact outside of this group the spread is mainly staying among gay men.

            It also can spread via fabrics and air but is much much more limited spread via those things. So what's happening is mainly based on the very specific social behaviours of gay men.

            If it enters straight party/clubbing scenes I suspect it would spread very similarly, it just hasn't found the right person to cause that spread before becoming symptomatic and isolating yet.

  • Singerino [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Doesn't matter. What matters is a homophobic narrative is being pushed, "those disease spreading gays". It's a variant on the old anti-Semitic slur that Jews spread disease because they traveled.

  • Bruja [she/her, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220723203517/https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/22/opinions/monkeypox-prevention-preparedness-madad/index.html

    Recent data from New York City shows that about 98% of reported monkeypox cases are among men and 2% among transgender, gender nonconforming and nonbinary individuals. Almost all are men who have sex with men (MSM).

    There is nothing intrinsic to the monkeypox virus that makes it spread specifically to the MSM community, but engagement with the highly interconnected sexual networks of the MSM community has become a risk factor for the virus. All outbreaks start somewhere and, unfortunately, monkeypox has found a footing into the MSM social network.

    The primary way monkeypox spreads is through close skin-to-skin contact, and sex is one activity that necessitates such contact. But the reality is that anyone can get and spread monkeypox.

    The difficult truth is that this monkeypox outbreak could have been avoided. We should have paid attention to this virus decades ago. Turning a blind eye to an outbreak happening in another country is not only foolish -- it's dangerous.

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      IDK how New York is doing it, but a lot of cities are ONLY testing gay men because they've already heard its a "gay disease." So this could also be incredibly self selecting.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    In addition to what the other poster said about the first superspreader event being a gay one, here's a confounding variable: Gay men are way more likely to get tested for infections after experiencing symptoms, and in certain places it's hard to get tested if you're not a gay man

    You're not more likely to get it if you're gay, it's spread by close contact and there's little kids that have gotten it

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It's important to note that there's been cases of gay men with monekypox whose sex partners all tested negative. If we use a strict definition of STI, monkeypox isn't an STI because it is not transmitted via sperm or vaginal fluid. It can't be ruled out that it spreads airborne, though, and it has been proven that it can spread via contaminated surfaces (towels, bedding etc.). When this is portrayed as just a gay STI, it isn't possible to accurately assess the risk of and effectively avoid infection.

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    when its spread thru close contact its not surprising its initially prevalent in the specific community it appears to have started its spread in. if patients 0+ had been a specific religious group or something else itd probably be the same story (with a different flavor of bigotry being pushed thru the press)

  • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    the "why": sure, it started out in one community and is subject to network effects there. Contributing is that the disease can be spread by touch and the gay men into hookups have way more partners than straight people (one source, this is obvious if you think about Grindr vs Tinder). Gay men have higher rates of regular STDs as well. Testing shouldn't be limited to gay men but we certainly should be making them aware of the vaccine.

    There's a decent thread on /r/MensLib about it right now

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Today’s lesson in syllogism —

    Major premise: monkeypox spreads by skin contact

    Minor premise: the media is spinning monkeypox as a gay thing

    Conclusion: straight sex doesn’t involve skin contact??????

    What do y’all do, then … ?

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Jizz in a turkey baster as the woman fake moans as the cold jizz enters her for . 1 seconds

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Chinese CDC cautioned against calling it that and since they're the only ones that know what they're doing I'd listen to them