It’s almost like they didn’t hear a word he said.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/wio72z/roger_waters_is_denying_chinas_genocide_on_uyghur/
It’s almost like they didn’t hear a word he said.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/wio72z/roger_waters_is_denying_chinas_genocide_on_uyghur/
For people who like to invoke Orwell for literally any reason, redditors do seem to think a lot of times that war is actual peace.
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That's literally how it's taught in American schools.
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What they're talking about is the creation of the Military Industrial Complex but without directly saying it. New Deal programs were replaced with military ones and American production shifted heavily into a constant state of arms production.
The reason it "helped the economy" had nothing to do with war or violence, just the fact that military production lines require massive amounts of labor and are centrally planned and funded by the state.
If America had decided to centrally plan light industrial production and invest in infrastructure (continuing New Deal policies) it would have had the same effect, but you can't genocide Koreans with trains in Chicago.
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Libs inadvertently defending the efficiency and efficacy of central planning
The new deal was cool and good and helped alleviate a lot of suffering during the depression
its false conservative cope and just a page away from their real ideological sticking point of 'the new deal prolonged the great depression & hoover would've solved it by doing nothing'
Idk how much effect the New Deal had, but being more or less the only industrialized economy that wasn't bombed flat with incredible loss of human life worked out really well for the US.
"War is great and good because it creates innovation!" :so-true:
-Actual take that was taught to me by my (not american) history teacher
It's not completely untrue. War makes the capitalist state willing to push aside liberal-conservative orthodoxy and invest in R&D, overrule patents and centrally plan research and production. When the features of capitalism that inhibits innovation are pushed back you get more innovation. All of this is of course for military purposes so civilian applications are incidental but the efficiency of central planning is evident.
This is true. Funnily enough this was not what he meant and more like "Innovation just happens because free markets in your country want to kill more than the free markets in their country!" :so-true:
He also said that the space race was a pure competition between privately funded and state-funded R&D, which is hilariously untrue.
I get why someone who only have a superficial knowledge of things might believe that Space X was privately funded but NASA? How does one arrive at that belief?
Because it was a great ideological battle between two competing systems and capitalism won, btw :very-smart:
I've had to dislodge so many brainworms because of that fucker. Definitely one of the top reasons why I can't trust anything this fucking country says about it's own history, it's all lies built on top of more lies garnished with some russophobia on top. :deeper-sadness:
Or 9/11, for that matter. Image how our economy would bloom ifwe had a 9/111 every day.
Yes because redditors are mostly young, well-off westerners who are bored. And war (wars in which they have no skin in the game) is "exciting" to them. It's like a real life action movie combined with sport where they get a "team" they get to root for. It's why IMO they treat Zelensky like some Marvel hero. It's all just entertainment to them.