Alongside other Luminaries like Tucker Carlson and Peter Hitchens

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  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Why the fuck would anyone convert it Catholicism? I understand protestant and evangelical converts, and converting to Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam, but Catholicism? What the actual fuck lol

    Not necessarily about the Texas guy, but just the general trend apparently amongst some people. Legitimately can't imagine why

    No shade meant to people who are currently practicing Catholics, I just don't understand how people not born into the religion convert to it nowdays.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      Evangelical Christianity is for dumb hicks and these people fancy themselves dark brooding intellectuals. Buddhism is too hippy-coded. It has its appeal for Sam Harris types but its not trad and fashy enough for these people

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        American Buddhism is full of cranks and woo woo hippies and grifters. You have to go further out of your way to find actual buddhist infrastructure. I can see a lot of people being put off by all the orientalist psuedo mysticism that gets passed off as buddhism in the us.

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      catholics are "better" than fractalised protestant churches in a few ways.

      funding: Big Catholic maintains more parishes at a 'loss' than smaller churches.

      coherent theology: lotta prot churches are basically one preacher's weird idea about 'x' and no-ones bothered to workshop them into logically consistent worldviews. yeah you can argue that's not necessary for a faith organisation but someone probably finds it compelling when catholics have solid answers to most your questions

      community: yeah the yanks and others are trying to tear it apart but i imagine its quite comforting & cool feeling to be able to go nearly anywhere on earth and attend a catholic service, whereas a southern baptist is SOL if they cross a fucking state line

      but who are we kidding its 60% larp and 40% tryna fuck catholics

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The Catholic Guilt to kinky sex weirdo pipeline isn't entirely fictional.

        • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          i feel like a non-zero amount of people would bite the conversion just to have regular sad not-kinky sex with their squeeze. fuckin a hell of a drug

        • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          just if you buy into the basic premises of christianity. shits no more immune to athiest questioning of the suppositions of a christian worldview than others lol

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I once read a very long Icelandic fiction novel about a boy who converted to the Catholic Church (from Lutheran) because it was the one institution still around from very long ago and therefore must be "true." It was... interesting.

        • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yes, that one! It's the only Laxness novel I've read it I don't know if it was good. I still think about it months on, and he's clearly a talented author, but I could never really get into it. It had moments of greatness and (clearly) memorable characters but the rest was so... strange. Just don't think I get what he's trying to do yet. I still have no idea what he was trying to make me feel, or even what I myself felt other than a vague sense of confusion. I wanted the book to be so much more than it was, and it was clearly not interested in doing that. What was the best one you started?

          • Wertheimer [any]
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            2 years ago

            Independent People is supposed to be his best, and perhaps his most communist, but I started it right after reading Hamsun’s The Growth of the Soil and wasn’t as in the mood for novels about farming / homesteading as I thought I was. All I really remember is that sheep carcasses were involved somehow, so I must not have stayed with it for long. Then I lent the book to a friend who was traveling to Iceland and I guess she never gave it back.

            The other one I started was World Light, which had a lot going for it. It was so bleak it was laugh-out-loud funny. The line I remember most goes something like “No one has known true sadness until they hear the sound of an old man bawling.” This one I abandoned because it was March 2020 and I got lost in the panic. When I came back to the book too much time had passed. I’ll start over next time I pick it up.

            I’ve also heard good things about Wayward Heroes but haven’t read it myself. Archipelago Books usually publishes good shit, though.

            • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Maybe I'll give Independent People a try. Yeah I bought the book solely because I liked the title and I trust Archipelago to put out good books.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      It has a patina of tradition. Cool outfits. Also ritual canivalism. On the other hand evangelicals just wear a boring suit, and are ovioulsy fake. Then again evangelicals are also more evil and i guess some people are into that.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      There's endless ritual shit you can do, with cool props and magic spells and stuff. Theres two thousand years of the nerdiest, most intensely naval gazing fan-fic to read through. There's thousands and thousands of saints you can have a parasocial relationship with. There's a bunch of weird social clubs and professional orgs and secret societies to join.

      It's big and it's got a lot of inertia. The cathedrals are very pretty. Even shitty catholic churches probably have some cool stained glass windows or alter pieces. It's much more formal than a lot of protestant churchs. You don't have to make anything up because it's all written down in excruciating detail. The rituals and the theology and the practices are the same in most catholic churches in the world. It's stable, youdon't get the constant schisms and fragmentation some protestant denominations go through.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        American protestants make the American left look like a well organized body of people all on the same page.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Why the fuck would anyone convert it Catholicism? I understand protestant and evangelical converts

      I'm the opposite. I get converting to catholicism way more than evangelicals.

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      I guess it's because it's got some actual (read: terrible) world history behind it so it gives it more legitimacy. That and I could imagine it's really hard to be ironic in an all-glass church where the pastor does a bad Chad Kroger impression during the Hallelujah.