what's the point?
i started with a friend recently and we got a base going and we played for 3 days amassing supplies to try to learn ONE blueprint (still like 12 blueprints from learning how to make a revolver or anything useful) and everybody on the server has helicopters and AKs and bombs. i played til 2AM last night and nearly learned my first blueprint and then I wake up this morning to two sheet metal doors with code locks just gone (blown up I guess?) and new locks and i'm locked out of my house. we built 4 bases over the last 3 days and i checked all 4 last night. this morning ALL 4 ARE GONE AND DESTROYED. in 10 hours while i slept. lost everything for 3 days of playing (like 12 hours) and i'm back to square one with literally no recourse. i still know ZERO blueprints and i'm shit all in the world. if this game expects me to grind out another 12 hours to maybe learn how to make a hammer i'll never use you've got to be fucking kidding me. been trying to play this game for 2 weeks and the server is gonna wipe soon and everybody has guns and i still can't understand how to make even a bean grenade or a hammer out of scrap. this is absolutely ridiculous.
is this a game or a career?
does this game just hate it's players? how do you catch up to people who have AKs and shit when I can't even build a hammer? what the fuck? this has got to be the worst game i've ever played by an insane margin. apparently sleeping in real life means you lose everything. how is this fun? i just want even a tiny chance at success but i'm playing against people who have teams of 10 people building massive castles with bombs and guns and fucking AIR SUPPORT while i'm naked with a rock barely able to build a couple shacks for bases. holy shit it's infuriating the lack of respect this game has for the time i've invested. like, the developers shit on me for wanting to play their game. feels like they want me to fuck all the way off and never play this game so i guess i'll take the hint.
this is a game made by people who live on their computers for people who shit in their own pants so they can game longer.
fuck allllll the way off with this shit. deleting this garbage.
So I'd suggest playing on rp servers, its way more fun people only monuments have pvp you claim territory and there is a process in which you declare war, honestly basic rust is hot garbage iv ben playing since 2012, the devs need to think about building in rp and pvp control more as the game isn't really fun or engaging and it just churns through players.
Good server is rust empires 1 They let people build city's and start up dumb stuff like car repair shops, weapon manufacturers, free housing, its really cool if you have a plan, i opened a bar and had one of my friends play music on the midi instruments. I have also created a taxi service and medical transport emergency services with the helicopter.
The entire game idk how to explain it feel like its a rp game trying to be a pvp game i think the developers should dump the honestly old style pvp game they have and go for a rp approch.
this sounds cool. i don't have a pc, is it on ps4? ps4 seems more rudimentary compared to pc so not sure if i'm just shit out of luck on this one or not. that does sound way more engaging though.
i honestly really loved the game when things were evolving and there was a story developing, i was building and gathering stuff, so close to building my first ever blueprint. but time and time again it gets stolen from me before i can make that crucial step to actually being able to do SOMETHING and i just seem stuck at this wall where it's like i can grind for days, the game allows me to waste my time grinding, but as soon as i actually am about to make true PROGRESS, everything gets stolen from me. i've had the game installed for a month and i've uninstalled it several times and keep coming back after trying to understand what i'm missing but this game just seems fundamentally cruel is the word i would use. cruelty is just in it's blood and i'm getting fucking tired of it. like let me play the game i bought or don't and if the answer is you don't then fuck off i'm moving on with my life.
anyway, i'm still really salty over this because i spent my whole weekend building this shit and it's all gone for nothing--nobody gained anything from fucking me over but here we are. the rp thing sounds cool though and i'd check it out if i can.
I think it is it should be in the modded server list if you can see it on ps4, the server has a really great community for the most part, every wipe the city builders try to do new themes for the city's. Im telling you its the way rust feels like it is meant to be played, an example a city clan by the name of era created a community of ufos that where apparentments.
I bought it a few months ago because it looks fun when people are playing it in youtube videos but holy crap.
They edit out the part where you spawn in, its night time, its pitch black, you don't even know the buttons and you're bludgeoned to death before you can even figure out which way is up.
I never even got to the point where I had to sink hours to upgrade my base or whatever. Way more masochistic than Dark Souls imo.
i feel robbed of my time if i'm totally honest like i find myself actively angry at the developers and the community for being so toxic to new players. i PAID for this game. i want to have a chance to experience it. the only way to succeed in this game is to not be the new guy so this seems like a game made for the same 10 people to play together amongst themselves forever. how does this game get new players ever? it's literally impossible to progress.
like i feel like my time has been wasted after i bought a game. i feel robbed of my time and money and i feel like what i paid for was a bunch of anxiety and anger and just general unpleasantness that wasn't in my life before I PAID THESE FUCKING DEVELOPERS MONEY to make my life palpably worse.
so yeah, the game gets deleted and i want everyone to know what a waste of money the game is. fuck anybody who sells a game like this is good faith without explaining that starting is impossible if you didn't start when the game was released or you have 24/7 to play.
they should be paying ME to play this fucking garbage. like i hated no mans sky for all the lies and manipulation with marketing and scamming me into a game i didn't expect to be playing that was buggy as fuck, but rust is a) the laggiest game on my ps4 by FAR b) the buggiest game on my ps4 by FAR and c) the cruelest and most toxic game i've literally ever played.
man i'm fucking heated lmao
No Man's Sky actually caused me to go on a similar rant lols I know how it is.
yeah, prior to playing rust, no mans sky was my most hated game. and not because it's bad--it's not in theory. it's just that every single thing it promised ended up being a hoax. my friend and i traveled for 2 weeks when the game came out to find each other and when we did we couldn't see each other. then we could see each other but not interact, then a new update let us build bases together but when we joined the other person's base it would glitch out and we would get stuck in walls, then they said they updated base sizes and we tried again with the same glitch. 2 years later we tried again and i still can't see half my friend's base that he promises exists and i end up getting stuck inbetween walls when i walk through doors. like, this game is 5 years old now. holy fuck.
but rust is a special kind of hatred. rust punishes you for wanting to interact with it, similarly to no mans sky, but rust isn't doing it unintentionally, it's built into the game. just the worst kind of sado/masochistic endless circle of toxic garbage. like i see why it attracts people who play literally 20 hours a day. and even if you go to sleep for 4 hours it only takes like 2 mins to lose everything anyway. we lost our first base in 2 mins while we panicked inside and some asshole burned us to the ground. it's just endless like this.
RE: NMS Why the fuckety fuck did it spawn me on a planet with acid rain and no umbrella? Why?
Dark Souls is harsh, but generally fair, and gives you incremental challenges so you can gradually build a sense of mastery.
Rust is just a 13 year old screaming slurs and waving their virtual dick around while they beat you to death with a rock.
what’s the point?
I ran around with my dick out hitting people with rocks for several hours back in like 2013 (jesus christ!) and came to the same conclusion.
is this a game or a career?
A whole bunch of modern games are genuinely made in such a manner that they might as well be jobs - it's not just the sheer time investment required, but also all the various time-limited tasks which force you to clock in every day so you don't miss stuff.
Something I've seen on the Tarkov subreddit a whole bunch of times is people complaining about how they literally don't have the time to keep up with all the bullshit in the game because of their jobs and families, and others responding "well, the game's not really meant for people like you"... "like you", you mean, people with jobs other than "Tarkov twitch streamer"? Like, most people who aren't children or retired? Yeah, nice.
Hunt Showdown just released a battlepass. People ran the math and it would take you 2-4 hours of play every day for sixty straight days to complete all levels of the pass. It's so fucking mean and manipulative. Game companies have just dropped the pretense and are openly doing as much skinner-box manipulation of gambling addictions as possible now.
lmao gamers really want to be basement nerds again. sure, make gaming a thing for everyone, cool. now, take it away and make it only something people who make it their sole purpose in life to game can do. cool, we're back to square one. gamers are "so persecuted" and it's only because they fucking want to be.
“well, the game’s not really meant for people like you”
Probably the most toxic statement in gaming. Its the verbal equivalent of admitting you have Stockholm Syndrome.
I feel like I'm talking to people trapped in a diabolical death-machine from SAW and hearing them explain how actually I'm just not cool enough to enjoy it like they do.
Stockholm Syndrome
I guess I'm not too surprised that a "hardcore" game about being a cool operator dude scavenging and murdering in a (highly localized) post-apocalypse would attract folks like this, but still...
or even worse
Nerds stop trying to equate personal hobbies with women challenge (Impossible)
I guess I’m not too surprised that a “hardcore” game about being a cool operator dude scavenging and murdering in a (highly localized) post-apocalypse would attract folks like this, but still…
I mean, in theory its a grittier version of Minecraft. But it could be a fun way to fantasize about doing Robinson Caruso survivalist shit. Instead we get Lord Of The Flies, with a new plane dumping another load of fresh-faced innocents onto the island every so often.
I put in like 4 hours a day for a week on that game and couldn't get anywhere. I was still trying to get an early quest item to unlock an NPC that lets you buy slightly better gear. Spawning in randomly in the map, waiting for match population density to get low enough that you don't get killed the moment you stand up, trying to get your bearing because the maps are huge and you don't get a minimap, running halfway across the map, trying to find a crashed plane in dense woods, trying to find a random tree stump somewhere near that... hope nobody else got the item first. Figure out what map exits you are allowed to use. Sit in the brush near an exit and wait until you think nobody else is left and then rush to exit before the time runs out. That game is stupid.
I looked into it a bit again recently with it being Hololive's new addiction and I find it just as obnoxious as I originally did. I remember reading some reddit threads from some guys that were hard into it to the point where they'd go to sleep with the game's volume on super loud in their room so if there was a raid they'd be woken up by the explosions and then jump in to defend.
The point that cemented it for me that I'd never try it was when they tied character creation to steam accounts and you got a random character and I refuse to play as a male character because fuck all that dysphoria nonsense even if I found a more chill private server. Watching the most absurd interactions people have in the game is entertaining, but it's also just excessively dull to watch unless you make sure to stay up to date with every bit of server drama.
I feel like it's a game that brings out the worst in people because that's what the game is built to do. It's not a game that highly rewards being chill and making a farm and cooperating with people, it wants you to pillage and destroy and to fuck up everyone's shit. Hololive in particular has their own house rules they have to follow to presumably not cause huge fan drama when one creator destroys the home of another leading to an internal fan war and massive shitshow.
Hololive in particular has their own house rules they have to follow to presumably not cause huge fan drama when one creator destroys the home of another leading to an internal fan war and massive shitshow.
Aww. I would love to see a Hololive Civil War arc.
i have voice chat off thank god, don't even wanna know what that's like.
i appreciate the support. i would MAYBE give it another shot because my friend wants to try again but i'm really losing my patience. we do airlocks and full stone bases with sheet metal code lock doors but they are just gone when i wake up. i lock the TC and everything but idk if my structures are good. i just do a 2x2 and add a triangle airlock and that's the most i understand to do. i don't understand why someone is using explosives to blow apart 2 metal doors just to raid what? 3000 wood and 2000 stone and like 150 metal fragments? isn't the cost of the explosives like 10x what they are gaining? so is this just a griefing game then? why is there no incentive to work together with people? the setup of the game seems to be kill on sight and always fuck others over and that's boring as fuck. same reason GTA online blows, because it's just nonsense killing with no context or deeper subplot evolving.
if i try again i will try to take your advice but i don't understand one thing you're suggesting. killing people how? i have a rock lmao. everybody literally one shots me. i wish i was being dramatic or hyperbolic but i'm really not. i've been in a rock on rock fight like 3 times maybe but 9/10 times i just get shot one or two times and boom, everything is gone. i have never killed anybody and gained anything from it, not even close. i basically just grind my ass off and lose everything every 2 days or so and i've made zero progress. i literally have zero blueprints and this server is gonna wipe in 10 days. it feels hopeless and useless and i'm angry i spent money on this shit.
If you like the idea but want to try something... uhh... prettier you might give Conan Exiles a try. There are lots of RP servers or servers with restrictive PvP rules. It also features problematic faves like capturing NPC slaves (they're called thralls in game so it's okay, right?) and sacrificing people for dark magic. You can also just run around doing PvE dungeons and fighting monsters. The big thing, though, is that there's enough game that you can explore, build, fight monsters, and craft stuff without having to be in PvP all the time. You could run your own server or run a server with friends.
That said CW: The game has problematic depictions of race, slavery is a core game mechanic, and it has a lot of weird stuff dating to it's roots as adventure stories from the 1920s. YMMV whether this is an acceptable part of the swords and sandals genre or unacceptable.
specifically re: base construction I think you want to learn "honeycombing," I don't play rust but the idea is to add small false sections on every side to increase the amount of explosives necessary to get to your shit
maybe watch some videos of good players to learn the things they do too
It's secular neo-Calvinist Protestant Work Ethic the Game, with a side order of post-apocalypse and zombie cliches.
Few things get off Epic G*mer chuds more than a sense that their haaard work that wasn't handed to them pays off with waifus and/or brutal and petty domination of everyone else.
Apparently there's an app people download that will tell you when your base is being raided so you can drop everything and try to defend your shit which sounds like a nightmare
Just play another survival game instead. Something where you can get the same effect of dying, but is less stressful, and you can still multiplayer with your friends - but without other randoms butting in.
yeah we were talking about stranded deep but we already did everything in that game and we were looking for more depth. probably back to that one though.
I have friends that played Rust but I've never gotten into it myself after watching videos of people filling other's bases with laser death traps.
I had someone convince me to try Hunt: Showdown and I died within a minute twice in a row, once because I entered a house with a hive of insects that bit me to death and I immediately uninstalled.
I have hundreds of hours played in hunt showdown and the idea of someone walking into a hive and just immediately uninstalling the game is really funny
I'm not super big into fps games as it is and I felt really frustrated after dying almost immediately in the first match.
I bought it in order to play with a friend, but it crashes on startup. I have 8 GB RAM so I think that's the cause
judging from these comments though I just wasted $20 and I shouldn't be in a hurry to upgrade my RAM
it's a Bad Game from a game mechanics standpoint but it's also very badly programmed from what i can tell. like i said in another comment it's the worst running game on my ps4 by a large margin, it crashes a lot and is super laggy and drops frames constantly (hilarious from a game that expects you to literally sleep with the game on so you can react at a moment's notice). like, i have literally nothing good to say about it that can't be said about another, better game. the more i've thought about it over the past 2 days the more i've realized it's a game that brings out the worst in people and rewards you for going through that hellish experience with exactly nothing. i know it might seem hyperbolic but i'm still on my 'this game is abusive to it's customer base' train on this one because it feels like you're paying to be punched in the face repeatedly. i'm not here to kink shame but that's not my vibe.
