Biden just condemned Antifa, so spare me the vote-shaming crap. Joe Biden is not an ally. https://t.co/XPHu1guHTV— Pat the General Striker 🦺🌹 (@PatTheBerner) September 8, 2020
Yes dude, I fucking LOATHE Democrats, but we are slowly kicking them out. Look at the gains the left has made recently; AOC, Jamaal Bowman, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, and recently re-assassinated Joe Kennedy. We are making progress and kicking out the old guard. It's slow and boring and takes a fuckton of money and energy to do, but we are doing it.
If we get Trump again, this motherfucker is wild. This guy is using DHS like Gestapo. We have established and normalized concentration camps. We have leftists and fascists dueling it out in the streets. This feels extremely familiar and, with the exception of the Russian Revolution, it almost always ends in brutal fascism. Biden is a fascist enabler, but he is too stupid and cowardly to actually be a fascist. That's REAL NOT GOOD to have that guy as your president. The only possible worse person to have as president, would be an actual fascist like Trump. We are faced with two horrible choices, one puts all of us in camps, the other might send some of us to prison. It's fucking dogshit, but it's what we have to deal with.
They were temporary Obama the administration to deal with unaccompanied minors who showed up at the border. They were held in the camps for at most 2 weeks while they were processed and then the camps were closed down.
They are not the same camps Trump has now made permanent. Fuck you guys for making me defend Biden just because you keep stupidly saying Trump and Biden are the exact same.
Does it change the fact that they were used differently for different goals? And that Obama's was not intentionally meant to be as cruel as possible and broadcast on the media to serve as a warning to all immigrants?
"It was going the same direction" is a cop out.
You guys are ruining my dreams of bullying liberals for the next 4 years. Instead I'm going to have to spend them explaining why BLM didn't cause Biden to lose. Fuck this shit.
Your point is I'm accurately making a qualitative judgement between Trump and Obama where Trump comes out worse and it makes me irrational to make a case for the slightly less bad version?
Yes dude, I fucking LOATHE Democrats, but we are slowly kicking them out. Look at the gains the left has made recently; AOC, Jamaal Bowman, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, and recently re-assassinated Joe Kennedy. We are making progress and kicking out the old guard. It's slow and boring and takes a fuckton of money and energy to do, but we are doing it.
If we get Trump again, this motherfucker is wild. This guy is using DHS like Gestapo. We have established and normalized concentration camps. We have leftists and fascists dueling it out in the streets. This feels extremely familiar and, with the exception of the Russian Revolution, it almost always ends in brutal fascism. Biden is a fascist enabler, but he is too stupid and cowardly to actually be a fascist. That's REAL NOT GOOD to have that guy as your president. The only possible worse person to have as president, would be an actual fascist like Trump. We are faced with two horrible choices, one puts all of us in camps, the other might send some of us to prison. It's fucking dogshit, but it's what we have to deal with.
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What's the alternative besides getting the fuck out of the country and giving up?
Edit: Nice no reply, super constructive and serious convo, guys.
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The idea that DHS or border camps are operating any different under Trump than it did Obama makes you a lib
They were temporary Obama the administration to deal with unaccompanied minors who showed up at the border. They were held in the camps for at most 2 weeks while they were processed and then the camps were closed down.
They are not the same camps Trump has now made permanent. Fuck you guys for making me defend Biden just because you keep stupidly saying Trump and Biden are the exact same.
There were permanent facilities funded in 2015 under Obama. It was going in the same direction.
https://archive.fo/BnOW7
Does it change the fact that they were used differently for different goals? And that Obama's was not intentionally meant to be as cruel as possible and broadcast on the media to serve as a warning to all immigrants?
"It was going the same direction" is a cop out.
You guys are ruining my dreams of bullying liberals for the next 4 years. Instead I'm going to have to spend them explaining why BLM didn't cause Biden to lose. Fuck this shit.
My point is that you're focusing too much on "orange man bad" like some lib. Trump is a distraction from a systemic problem.
Your point is I'm accurately making a qualitative judgement between Trump and Obama where Trump comes out worse and it makes me irrational to make a case for the slightly less bad version?