After 20 days, he'll be asked to conscript again. If he refuses, he'll be sent to jail again. This will continue till either he agrees to conscription or the military stops requiring him.

    • edge [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Literally just kicking out opposition politicians because they criticized the government.

      "Only democracy in the Middle East."

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        There are a few Arab or Palestinian MPs, I believe, but they've all been criticized about the media or harassed for not towing the line, I think.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      two communist MPs have been dropped from the Knesset

      Have a good article on this?

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Okay, here's the other parliamentarian that was "sanctioned," apparently:

        https://peoplesworld.org/article/palestinian-and-israeli-communists-tell-u-s-audience-fight-for-ceasefire-now/

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        From People's World (I know it's not CPUSA's best outlet; that goes to cpusa.org, but People's World has covered this every now and then).

        Let me try to find 'em...

      • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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        edit-2
        7 months ago

        I'm not aware of anything like this but I could be falling behind the news. Ofer Cassif narrowly avoided expulsion in February

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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          7 months ago

          See my other comment:

          I may have been wrong about this part, tbh.

          On a quick review, it seems that one was "sanctioned" and another was basically put on time-out, maybe more than once (but I'm not sure about that part either).

          I believe there's repression, but so far, I don't know how far it extends.

          • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
            ·
            7 months ago

            Oh yeah I definitely agree it's still repression. Honestly didn't know if there had been updates as I've not been able to keep up with the news as much

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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              7 months ago

              As an aside, I just find it interesting:

              If there's outcry and protests in Israel and if the war is taking longer than anyone thought then that could mean we're winning in the end and that the war is going poorly for the genociders.

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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              7 months ago

              Yeah, you can look through the article I posted yourself. There definitely does seem to be repression against any protest or outcry against what's happening.

              Frankly, though, I just hope that the protests and direct action here in the US and around the world is working; we need to stop shipments to Israel and make the whole genocide as uncomfortable and hard as possible for the settler-colonialists! We need to force peace on these settlers and not on their terms and hopefully the Palestinian resistance in Gaza can survive after this.

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        https://peoplesworld.org/article/palestinian-and-israeli-communists-tell-u-s-audience-fight-for-ceasefire-now/

        https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/right-wing-israeli-lawmakers-determined-to-silence-jews-opposed-to-gaza-genocide/

        https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/israeli-communist-lawmaker-warns-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-is-underway/

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Here you go! Found the original article:

        https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/israeli-communist-ofer-cassif-expelled-from-parliament-for-criticizing-war-on-gaza/

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Here's another article:

        https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-palestinian-struggle-within-israel-interview-with-the-communist-party-of-israel/

    • robinn_IV
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      7 months ago

      The Communist Party of Israel is complete garbage anyways, claiming to oppose Zionism while championing the two-state solution, hand-wringing about how "nothing justifies Oct. 7th" and "we condemn October 7th" before blaming occupation (but only opposing occupation in the West Bank and Gaza).

  • glans [it/its]
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    7 months ago

    please tell me there are more than THREE of them in all of israel

      • glans [it/its]
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        7 months ago

        that's so wild. the craziest thing I've heard about israel in a few days.

        I assume there would be at least several dozen if not couple hundred weirdos refusing for reasons of all sorts. doesn't israel have stubborn weirdos?

          • glans [it/its]
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            7 months ago

            They gentrified draft dodging lol

            Incredible control over the population.

  • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Literally braver than the troops. That's admirable af.

    I can't even imagine being told (and forced) by my government to either go help exterminate this ethno group we don't like, or go to jail.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    It must take immense moral integrity and courage to stand against the fascist regime you were brought up to revere. I hope more like him will follow.

  • jonne@infosec.pub
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    7 months ago

    I was under the impression that you'd be sent to prison for a fixed number of days. Can they really keep someone in prison indefinitely for this?

    • LibsEatPoop [any]
      hexagon
      ·
      7 months ago

      Yeah. You're sent to prison for a limited time, then you are asked again. As long as you keep refusing, you keep being sentenced. This only ends if you agree or they stop asking for some reason, like the end of the war or with a court order or something like that.

      I guess, it's not really asking. It's mandatory conscription.

      • jonne@infosec.pub
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        edit-2
        7 months ago

        Yeah, that definitely changes the calculation. I thought it was just 30 days in prison and you're done, but this could be years, especially if the government has the incentive to try and make and example out of you.

        I guess it makes those conscientious objectors even braver than I thought.

        • BlueMagaChud [any]
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          7 months ago

          At some point I would think you would just accede to conscription and then teamkill as many IOF as you can before they kill you