Remember when the President was "joking" about 100hour workweek? I wonder why no one wants to have children.

  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]
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    2 years ago

    I read that in my country the biggest reason for the currently declining birth rates are that the number of people having more than 2 children are sharply declining which is just :surprised-pika:

    Most millenials who want to wait until they at least own their own house to have children will probably be at an age where having more than 2 kids isn't a possibility unless you go straight from pregnancy to pregnancy, which most people obviously don't want to do

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    the only people I know who had kids had an accident, are bad at financial planning/money, or they had a frank conversation with their parents and told them if the boomers wanted grandkids, they would provide nepotism/assistance buying a home/achieving stability etc.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      if the boomers wanted grandkids, they would provide nepotism/assistance buying a home/achieving stability etc.

      hell yeah gettem :jetstream-troll:

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Hell, my partner and I have a lot of mutual friends who are married, but only 2 pairs out of 7 or so sets of married friends have even 1 kid, and 1 of them was basically an 'accident'

      My partner's sister and her husband have 2, but they're both doctors

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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    2 years ago

    Weird how the average age Koreans in the south reach economic stability where it's viable to have kids is continually skyrocketing to the point where the average age of new parents has just hit the mid 30s. Let's not even touch cost of living if you have a family somewhere reasonable.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      And not even due to some species wide infertility but just material conditions :stalin-stressed:

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Give people more time off and turn off the television and videogames. Guarantee your fertility rate goes up.

    1.9 births per woman in DPRK vs 0.9 births in occupied Korea.

    Still below 2 though, which I guess is still a problem particularly for Juche given that they can't just get migrants.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I think replacement rate is 2.1 or 2.2 right? At least DPRK is close enough that some more active focus on family planning could easily bring it back. South Korea is just in the midst of societal suicide right now though.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Give people more time off and turn off the television and videogames. Guarantee your fertility rate goes up.

      With due respect, I don't think this is good analysis. Time off and hobbies are likely quite a small component in fertility rates. Look at the birth rates of non-immigrants in places like Italy and Germany which have comparatively generous time off and they're still well below replacement rates.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Probably not for a country that relies entirely on its own labour, has zero immigration and extremely little trade. The more their labour decreases the less they can do for themselves. It directly conflicts with the juche idea.

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          2 years ago

          Is the Juche idea predicated on perpetual population growth, or is it based on stability, a drive to optimize labor input, a balance of humanity and the natural factors that support it, and a recognition that there are almost twice as many people in the DPRK as there were in the entire peninsula a century ago?

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            One way or another it still relies on sustainability. You might argue it can be ignored until the population returns to previous numbers (I would say that's wrong due to the war and aging population) but it will still become a problem eventually.

            • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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              2 years ago

              A big part of what drives birth rates down is crowdedness, and an attitude that there really doesn't need to be that many more people. We have more people on the planet than at any previous time in history, and I hardly expect the above factors to stay the same throughout a long period of population change. It's moderate, it's nothing to worry about.

  • Praksis [any]
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    2 years ago

    Funny story that I've heard, but apparently the president is currently so unpopular partially because he ''betrayed'' his incel voterbase lmao

    • Praksis [any]
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      2 years ago

      south korea is such a dystopian capitalist hellscape

  • Teekeeus
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    19 days ago

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  • gaycomputeruser [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Why do capitalists keep trying to make the work week longer when its been proven time after time that there is a hard limit on the amount of productive work someone can do in a work-week.

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    BRB moving to Korea and having a baby for that sweet baby payment money