A while back, I got so many personal messages full of frothing rage spewed at me in defense that particular treat.
I stand by what I said back then: making the plot-contrived-mandatory genocide into sequences of wacky hijnks after the plot-contrived justification for genocide does not make it okay by me.
I don't remember the "unusually progressive" part though. It's been a hot day, some of my Joker makeup may have washed off already, so feel free to remind me. :jokerfication:
Lmao I think I started this “struggle session”, or at least one with the same topic. I called Goblin Slayer gross and disgusting, and some treat defender tried to debate lord.
As for the anime being “progressive”, I remember they tried to argue that it represents class struggle because in the anime the nobles didn’t care about the peasants, or some other contrived bullshit that demonstrated a complete nonunderstanding of what class struggle is. It was a kneejerk reaction to the poster’s precious treat getting badmouthed.
The whole premise of that show is fascist. Unless there's some backstory that I'm unaware of where the goblins are waging a national liberation struggle against humans encroaching on their indigenous lands, it's just the usual "Asiatic locust swarm horde in human form that only knows how to rape and pillage" fascist trope, except with green humanoids instead of (European) humans.
Even if one could somehow set aside all the hog feeding in the first episode and thecryptofascist genocide apologia in Goblin Slayer, the "these nobles are bad actually" trope is very tired old :LIB: cliche when it's usually seen, especially when the implied subtext is "if only we had better nobles, ah well. Revolutions are silly and/or hypocritical and/or just as bad as the bad nobles and/or doomed to fail!"
Gambo's setting also is pretty much that. I don't buy the "this is actually leftist because it shows nobles as bad actually" take because the only alternatives or prospects of change are shown as silly or hypocritical or otherwise doomed to fail, and there was a good monarch this one time that the setting and its narrative voice express nostalgia for on top of that. :sus-soviet:
Wait someone didn't get that Goblin Slayer was just legit old time "all goblins are evil" DnD-ing with the most lightest of fucking character "development" (if you call not wanting to address PTSD a character trait)?
edit for clarity: i.e. it's a really bad tropie mess similar to most old school fantasy schlock with additional sexual violence against women
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A while back, I got so many personal messages full of frothing rage spewed at me in defense that particular treat.
I stand by what I said back then: making the plot-contrived-mandatory genocide into sequences of wacky hijnks after the plot-contrived justification for genocide does not make it okay by me.
I don't remember the "unusually progressive" part though. It's been a hot day, some of my Joker makeup may have washed off already, so feel free to remind me. :jokerfication:
Lmao I think I started this “struggle session”, or at least one with the same topic. I called Goblin Slayer gross and disgusting, and some treat defender tried to debate lord.
As for the anime being “progressive”, I remember they tried to argue that it represents class struggle because in the anime the nobles didn’t care about the peasants, or some other contrived bullshit that demonstrated a complete nonunderstanding of what class struggle is. It was a kneejerk reaction to the poster’s precious treat getting badmouthed.
The whole premise of that show is fascist. Unless there's some backstory that I'm unaware of where the goblins are waging a national liberation struggle against humans encroaching on their indigenous lands, it's just the usual "Asiatic locust swarm horde in human form that only knows how to rape and pillage" fascist trope, except with green humanoids instead of (European) humans.
Even if one could somehow set aside all the hog feeding in the first episode and thecryptofascist genocide apologia in Goblin Slayer, the "these nobles are bad actually" trope is very tired old :LIB: cliche when it's usually seen, especially when the implied subtext is "if only we had better nobles, ah well. Revolutions are silly and/or hypocritical and/or just as bad as the bad nobles and/or doomed to fail!"
Gambo's setting also is pretty much that. I don't buy the "this is actually leftist because it shows nobles as bad actually" take because the only alternatives or prospects of change are shown as silly or hypocritical or otherwise doomed to fail, and there was a good monarch this one time that the setting and its narrative voice express nostalgia for on top of that. :sus-soviet:
Wait someone didn't get that Goblin Slayer was just legit old time "all goblins are evil" DnD-ing with the most lightest of fucking character "development" (if you call not wanting to address PTSD a character trait)?
edit for clarity: i.e. it's a really bad tropie mess similar to most old school fantasy schlock with additional sexual violence against women