The moment you include fascists, your group is fascist
Eh. I agree with this in theory. But in practice, I'm all too familiar with the Reddit discourse that tags anti-war groups and pro-Palestinian groups and "tankies" with the Fascist brush. As with any censorship policy, the reality is in the eye of the administrator.
You can cultivate an absolutely toxic brew of fascist dickery while waving a big "No Fascists Allowed" banner. Hell, that's been the Israeli model for the last 80 years. Do Fascism. Call anyone who complains a Fascist.
Especially considering when I initially argued that to the mod, it was in the context of Ukraine in now they allowed nafo and azov fascists sit side by side with people who were genuinely demanding a ceasefire.
I do agree there's more to moderation than flying a "no fascists allowed" banner. Mods in this server I had this spat in was part of a vaguely left leaning (mostly Americans) space.
I expected them to actually have the principles and integrity they self claim to have. But as you mentioned, they're actively cultivating an absolutely toxic brew of fascism while claiming in their server rules "no n*zi shit".
I actually had the misfortune of dealing with one personally in their server. Some nafo pfp hog, in a roundabout way, essentially Said "thacker pass ndns should just move so America can have the lithium, it's for the sake of progress"
Like imagine how pissed they would get if I said something similarly hurtful to Ukrainians...
Eh. I agree with this in theory. But in practice, I'm all too familiar with the Reddit discourse that tags anti-war groups and pro-Palestinian groups and "tankies" with the Fascist brush. As with any censorship policy, the reality is in the eye of the administrator.
You can cultivate an absolutely toxic brew of fascist dickery while waving a big "No Fascists Allowed" banner. Hell, that's been the Israeli model for the last 80 years. Do Fascism. Call anyone who complains a Fascist.
No you actually bring up a very good point.
Especially considering when I initially argued that to the mod, it was in the context of Ukraine in now they allowed nafo and azov fascists sit side by side with people who were genuinely demanding a ceasefire.
I do agree there's more to moderation than flying a "no fascists allowed" banner. Mods in this server I had this spat in was part of a vaguely left leaning (mostly Americans) space.
I expected them to actually have the principles and integrity they self claim to have. But as you mentioned, they're actively cultivating an absolutely toxic brew of fascism while claiming in their server rules "no n*zi shit".
I actually had the misfortune of dealing with one personally in their server. Some nafo pfp hog, in a roundabout way, essentially Said "thacker pass ndns should just move so America can have the lithium, it's for the sake of progress"
Like imagine how pissed they would get if I said something similarly hurtful to Ukrainians...
Hardly have to imagine. Russian media says shit like this all the time and they go through the roof over it.
You're just talking about appearances and not the reality of the thing