yes I am accepting constructive criticism
My reasonings
Good
- ROMhacking dot net is a good cataloguing site but won't host any actual modded roms, just the patch files
- don't really have anything bad to say about moddb except that there's so many abandoned WIP mods hanging around
- Gamebanana has a lot of really cool shit for games that can't be found anywhere else but god is its UI horrendous
Neutral
- GitHub is GitHub
- Nexus Mods has done a lot of shady shit, is arguably moving to become a monopoly but at the same time they will remove chud hate mods and aren't a completely hostile user experience
- Steam Workshop is a lawless wasteland
Evil
- Curseforge has done a LOT of anti-consumer motions in the past and is also gunning for mod monopoly status
- LoversLab
- idk if adfly is even still relevant in this day and age but it's been the bane of my fucking existence long enough so I'm including it
I think there's a discussion to be had about the particular focus on sexual violence in communities like that, and I'd be more comfortable saying "nah that place is cool" if that wasn't such a core aspect of it. At the same time, I'm not trying to put forth any actual opinions about sexual violence in pornographic contexts because I haven't thought or read very much about that topic. I just think there could be (and probably already has been) a good discussion on it.
I think one of the issues you have with this topic is that once you step beyond vanilla sex it's almost ALL some element of submissive vs dominance and due to the fictional setting people take it as far as they possibly can because fiction.
The other part of this is a question of who the perpetrator of sexual violence actually is, to my knowledge most of these mods have the player being the one that the sexual violence is against, and the player is obviously a consenting participant to that fantasy.
Definitely a different vibe going on when it's the player performing compared to receiving though? But here we get into a subject matter that the kink community has debated without the videogame element for decades already.
I think a huge part of that is driven by the medium. Video games are disproportionately about violence, so of course video game porn is going to be too. Like if you're making sex mods for Skyrim all of those combat mechanics are right there and open to be used by your sexual violence mod, while a mod that's just about consensual smashing can feel flat by comparison since there isn't much to dialogue.
imagine consensual mod built around the oblivion speech minigame :kitty-cri-screm:
Yeah I am mostly just riffing on LoversLab here for being a den of horny and ripped video game model conversions.
Admittedly they are a bunch of :freeze-peach: types with their only two big content rules being 1. adult characters only, 2. don't harass people but tbf those are good standards to have.
No you're right, I should be using stuff like 'profit seeking' and 'anti-user' instead here
It's always a conscious decision for me to use anti-user instead of anti-consumer because of work-related brainworms. You'll get used to it eventually.
The flagship game for steam workshop (TF2) has enough content to create years of updates and yet Valve doesn't even let people do client-side model replacements *in casual because they know it jeopardizes the Mannco stores existence.
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Casual mode only exists because the previous matchmaker would just dump you onto literally any server with open slots. While people got annoyed over furry servers, this ultimately sustained a lot of communities with passive traffic.
The updated(2016) and current matchmaker only sends you to official servers and community servers are relegated to the server browser. This ended up suffocating a bunch of servers.
aaand then they implemented a modding ban in competitive and casual.
The shittiest part is people will use cheating as a valid reason to ban modding wholesale all because some dipshit used transparent wall textures or replaced spy's decloaking sound with a train horn- even after 2 YEARS of server-wiping bot raids.
Sorry I can't help ranting about this. I wasted too many years in this game, and Valve literally just waits until people forget about the last shitty thing they did.
nexus and steam should be evil and loverslab should be neutral :theory-gary:
hosting RimJobWorld puts you in the evil category no matter how much good you do for the modding community, sorry
holy shit. holy shit. there's no art its all text and mechanics :stalin-stressed: at least the kinky paradox game mods add art this is insane
this is like 1 degree removed from reading erotic fiction, fascinating :magnifying-glass:
oh don't worry
they have "visual enhancement addons" too :sicko-wholesome:
:miyazaki-laugh: im fucking losing it they've got the same weird limbless floaty design but added tits and ass.
fuckin never change gamer weirdo perverts
It's like seeing Minecraft porn for the first time, thinking it's a parody, and then realizing that there's an entire generation of kids who discovered their sexuality to this stuff and now completely unironically get off to cubes.
:jesse-wtf: no no no no no :walter-shock:
it is a parody its not real no
weird limbless floaty design but added tits and ass
Stupid sexy Rayman
I think you're talking about the Beautiful Bodies mod. :blob-no-thoughts: I just like it because it gives them more definition and goes with the anime faces.
Have never felt compelled to have pawns with massive dongs that impede their movement speed or having to worry about a serial rapist in the colony.
I have no knowledge about this because I'm not a filthy GAMER but good job, OP. This looks like it took some effort/thinking.
this is unironically the nicest thing anyone's ever said about a gaming shitpost of mine :shy:
Ah Moddb, I remember my days of browsing for Company of Heroes, STALKER and Rise of Nations mods all the time. Good site !
Modrinth probably deserves a mention in this thread as it was built as a reaction to curseforge's increasingly anti-user practices.
Other than that the chart seems pretty good. I'd debate moving Nexus mods into generally more good as their mod installation platforms are also good (and they allow other to easily exist/interface with the site alongside them) alongside their willingness to nuke chud mods and telling people upset by it to fuck off.
Yeah now that you bring it up, I probably could have put Modrinth in neutral good and moved moddb to lawful neutral since listing Github as a 'mod hosting site' is a little reductive lol
wrt Nexus mods I'm always of two minds of it.
On one hand, I do like a lot of its layout, its pretty feature rich (just being able to look at all a mod's dependencies and dependents is really nice). Its filtering system isn't terrible, and yeah the vortex modloader does make things a lot more approachable to users.
On the other hand, I don't like the idea of letting Nexus mods establish itself as The Modding Website, and how they used to have a lifetime ad removal purchase but have since gotten rid of it. I'm worried too much authority will get them doing worse consumer practices a la curseforge
Nexus forces you to sign up to download anything, and should therefore be evil. Fuck Nexus.
I use sky mods. Dont have a steam acount. But they are the pioneeres in downloadable content vs owning your own games so they should be lawful evil in my book.
Only slightly related, but does anyone remember that really popular ROM site from the 2000s?
I used it to play a bunch of GBA games, maybe also N64 can't remember
I used to use CoolROMs before I figured out Bittorrent is a thing
Actually, Nintendo threatened them with a lawsuit many years ago so they took down all their ROMs. For a while you could still access the files with the right scripts. Not sure what's going on with the site now, they were supposed to pivot to just being a retro game community after the cease and desist.
Anyway, apparently the current easiest place to get the most up to date and vetted ROMs is a megathread on the emulation subreddit.
Edit: Here's the github it links to
https://r-roms.github.io/
The steam workshop is absolutely the most evil platform. Neutral mod sites let people get mods no matter where they bought the game (...or if), but now there's a fuck ton of games that have great mods and are available on multiple platforms, but almost all of the modding scene is locked away on Steam only. Digital enclosure act :heated-gamer-moment:
when you get sent to github for a mod that's when you know you're going to get the good shit for real
