There's been an uptick in anti-DPRK articles in the UK recently, probably because of the comparisons of the last 2 weeks of queen shit with the popular depictions of them. Can't let that propaganda weaken.
:the-plan: The Plan:
- Convince workers to be paid in POO rather than cash
An outlet from the UK running stories on what other countries are doing with their poo is throwing stones from a glass house in a huge way.
in Glorious :ukkk: we fling our shit untreated into the waterways, whereas the Perfidious and Devious Asiatics have devised terrifying new methods to treat waste into socially valuable resources!
The evil tyrant Kim Jong Un will NEVER take my poop away from me.
Wicked poop tyrant KJU is stealing the poop out of everyone's dirty asses!!
they're desperate to believe this because their material conditions are cratering and their coping strategy is laughing at the subhuman other they need to feel has it worse
The stuff Americans say about China and North Korea reminds me a lot of an evangelical's reflections I read on the "Procter and Gamble is Satanist" rumor in his community. The guy is pretty lib overall, but he has some very good insight on why this sort of thing happens:
False Witnesses
False Witnesses 2 [CW: Discusses animal torture]Part 1 lays out the case that people don't actually believe this shit:
And why are we even bothering to discuss the holes in this story? It’s nothing but holes. Any one of those holes should stop the hearer short, preventing them from passing this ridiculous story along and adding their approval to it.
If a person is smart enough to comprehend this story and then to repeat it, then that person is, by definition, not stupid enough to really believe it.
I used to believe that maybe some people were that stupid. They were acting that stupid, so I went along. I believed that the people I was sending that dossier to were merely innocent dupes.
But in truth they were neither innocent nor dupes. The category of innocent dupe does not apply here. No one could be honestly misled by such a story. The only way to have been misled by it is dishonestly — which is to say deliberately, willingly and willfully. They are claiming to believe a foolish thing, but they are not guilty of foolishness. They are guilty of malice.
And part 2 explains why they pretend to:
[They] seem to fulfill some urgent need. They give us someone we can clearly and correctly say we’re better than. Their extravagant cruelty makes us feel better about ourselves because we know that we would never do what they have done. They thus function as signposts of depravity, reassuring the rest of us that we’re Not As Bad As them, and thus letting us tell ourselves that this is the same thing as us being good.
This is insightful, and really reminds me of the argument Roderic Day lays out (among other things) in this excellent article: that people accept propaganda not because they are especially gullible and easily duped by elites, but because it is reassuring and comforting over their own precariousness and powerlessness.
edit: some quoted sections to outline this idea:
In short, this essay will make the case that “brainwashing” as a political theory breaks society down into three mutually-exclusive camps: 1) a group of elite manipulators, 2) vast masses under their control, 3) a rebellious group of enlightened critics (to which the person launching the accusation of “brainwashing” implicitly always belongs, since they are neither unaware of it nor abetting it). An unstated premise of this political theory is that what determines which of these camps any individual belongs to is a mixture of intellectual enlightenment and moral purity.
Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style, they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live. The psychic and material costs are rationally worth the benefits. As for those anti-imperialists who don’t participate in this festival of xenophobia — and here I include myself — we have our own elitist consolation: we accept the tragedy of masses of gullible sheeple falling for cunning propaganda because having overcome it flatters our own intelligence. The more we condemn society’s stupidity, the smarter we feel in comparison.
Talk of “manufacturing” and “inventing” suggests an imposition over and against the individual’s will. I believe that, on the contrary, the process of Western propaganda is better understood in terms of “licensing” — the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren’t “brainwashed” insofar as they don’t actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It’s more correct to say that they go along with them, whether enthusiastically or apprehensively, because it’s actually their optimal survival strategy. When we concede that the time horizon and scope of responsibility within which we all make our decisions varies, it becomes much easier to see how their choice could be smart and intelligent. The enlightened critic can plead that if we all agreed to denounce the status quo in unison we’d be immensely rewarded, but the average worker in the first world cannot be accused of naivety for preferring to keep a low profile, particularly after being subject — very often by that same critic — to so many grim stories of murder and of punishment and of how any attempt at radical change always goes awry.
What gets me about this is that Marx was writing in response to England's Second Agricultural Revolution. The impetus of it was multiple British and American agronomists remarking that the separation of town and country meant all of the manure in the towns was flushed into rivers. Instead of restoring the metabolic potential of the soil that grew all of their food, English urbanites used it to poison their water supply and kill all of their fish. The authors were shocked at the barbarism of it.
Now we limit biosolid fertilisation because western pigdog populations are so unhealthy that our shit would poison the soil with microplastics and pharmaceuticals. It's still a critical link in reducing the metabolic rift that's imminently destroying the whole fucking biosphere, but we're so bloodthirsty that we'd rather pillage the world for new sources of fertiliser than do as much as possible to build soil fertility.
there's communicable disease reasons to not use nightsoil but as others have mentioned you can deal with that before it would contaminate crops.
we just have so much animal ag there's no reason to use human poo.
The scale of animal agriculture now is a result of not dealing with the issue then, since it was large landlord farms depopulating the countryside for sheep. Ranches and feedlots are the metabolic rift in its starkest form so I'd gladly return to night soil if it meant downscaling to sustainable farming levels. That's conserving as much energy as possible collectively in the most useful way.
it's almost like giving everyone a bit of land, a small house and having them farm it would solve everything
Hence me wanting to homestead and build a non-hippie framework for condederating them into mutual aid networks/militias. Degrowth is the best we can hope for as long as it's made radical.
Funny thing is, if this were true there wouldn't be necessarily anything wrong with it. Society collecting their poo, breaking it down with anaerobic bacterial in septic tanks, then converting it to manure for farming would objectively be a good way of reusing human waste, provided it's done safely.
they just dump it into the ocean. there's a massive pile of shit just sitting in the water. its called "Britain"
offensive comparison, feces makes really good compost after fermenting for 2 years or so
feces is preprocessed and doesn't have bones, so it'd take way longer
The sewage plant near me gives away composted material for free lol
You need to shit out 150%-300% your body weight daily or evil Kim will come over and personally murder you and your family.
You need to shit out 150%-300% your body weight daily
damn, North Korea is copying westoids with COVID. The theft never stops
You need more fiber if your poops are taking more than 30 seconds.
Kim Jong-un takes a trip to the Laffy Taffy Factory. Look at him now, he's having a wonderful time. :kitsupogi:
Life Pro Tip: If you eat nothing but caramel syrup, your poop can take on this exact color and texture, too!
alright, RFA, The Sun, next stop the Washington Post
Now it's no longer a primary source, and it's good for Wikipedia!
The tubby tyrant
Quit fatshaming my boy smh, he's looking good
Liberals: :squidward-chill: It’s because he’s got a deadly ailment
Also liberals: :squidward-nervous: oh got he’s hot
