https://mobile.twitter.com/anarchoboognish/status/1573017198792146944
Simply leave your child in the forest. The wolves will raise them as their own
do NOT do this, this is how you end up with IT*LIANS :anti-italian-action:
that entire thread of replies is just children with authority issues saying "yeah, punishments are bad, that's why i'm an anarchist 😎". Real abolish bedtime energy.
I assume the reason I've never heard irl anarchists saying nonsense like this is I don't interact with people younger than 23, ever.
Okay but I read a thread on here and someone mentioned they were in puberty. I get there's late bloomers, but it's fairly reasonable to assume there's a strong possibility we find ourselves arguing/posting with people a fraction of our age in any given thread. Put the stupid fucking struggle sessions into context for me big time.
Yes, I'm going to do my best to compartmentalize the stupid bullshit I see on here and try to chalk it up to youthful ignorance. Again, young people can be informed and I'm glad for it! I'm sure I've learned a lot from young comrades on here.
But there are some lessons and communication skills that truly must come from lived experience and perspective.
as in tween puberty and not HRT second puberty? what, did teen vogue do a piece on the site?
Good point. Could be second puberty - but I know there's teenagers on here from past posts as well, and even adult teenagers are a surprisingly small fraction of my age at this point.
The slow inexorable march of time comes for us all.
RHETORIC [Heroic: Failure](Whisper.) "Is homework bourgeois?"homework as it currently exists is kinda bad in a few ways, like how it conditioned us to accept bringing work home but that's just a larger part of western education being about indoctrinating wage slaves.
AFAIK studies on homework show that it just increases anxiety and sorts kids by economic class while doing very little to actually increase retention of information. If we made a school system based on what we know about childhood education it would be one of the things that would 100% get dropped, along with shortening summer vacation, starting the school day later for older kids, and feeding every kid for free.
along with shortening summer vacation
whoa, no thanks. I'd take the other 3 things though.
Fortunately I'm permanently done with school and will never have to worry about it anyways.
whoa, no thanks
That is literally everyone's reaction to shortening summer vacation, but the fact is that school systems with 1 month summer vacations perform far better than systems with 2 or 3 month ones.
I've known sooo many irl anarchists up over the years, and not a single one of them ever had a take as shitty as this.
Or at least not past the year they turned like 17.
Oh yeah, I'm sure they exist here and there, but they're obviously not representative of the anarchist movement as a whole. That's really all I'm saying.
And I'm thinking it also has a lot to do with where you are. Some places have anarchist traditions going back decades, and other places saw their first anarchists just a couple years ago or whatever. That definitely has to make a difference, you know?
The so-called "anarchists" I've known offline that have takes like this are closer to bandits than they are anarchists in my opinion. They tend to be less interested in creating an actually functioning society and more interested in simply ending any and all use of power in any form so that they can do whatever they want. They tend to have very few lines that they won't cross and were all sex pests.
I don't like lumping them in with anarchists at all. They were all fringe orbiters more interested in the crimes they could commit with the moral backing of anarchist beliefs than anarchy itself.
Tell me you've never interacted with a child without telling me.
Saw this in the replies and it really feels like it was made for this.
Don't you know that alcoholics all naturally get sick of drinking and get sober my themselves? That's why nobody has ever died of alcohol-related causes ever.
So, “natural consequences” is a good parenting strategy for a lot of things. If a kid eats enough sweets right before bed, they’ll puke. But if your kid is regularly overeating on an excess of junk food, only cutting themself off before you puke? The natural consequences for that are eating disorders beginning to manifest in your late teens and a life-long struggle with weight (because resting metabolic rate is largely genetic, but is also affected by diet, so two genetically identical people will have different resting metabolic rates based on how healthily they eat during childhood). The feedback cycle for eating junk long-term, as opposed to a stomache ache several hours later, is on the order of decades. And by the time that feedback registers, the task of undoing those decades of unhealthy habits becomes significantly harder. Like work-4-times-as-hard-to-get-worse-results harder.
Just in case anyone was reading this tweet and thinking, “wait, but that kind of makes sense,” there’s your explanation. Justified hierarchy should work to undermine itself over time, but that doesn’t mean that all authority and force is illegitimate.
First thing that came to my head was toothbrushing. Sure, let your kid blow off regular dental hygiene. They'll only have to deal with decades of expensive, painful, and esteem-crushing physical conditions! Surely that was worth not having to be the bad guy to your nine year old until they developed the habit.
decades of expensive, painful, and esteem-crushing physical conditions!
what conditions is there besides tooth loss?
I'm referring to the whole range of maladies that can eventually lead to tooth loss - cavities, infections, gingivitis, etc. Even if it doesn't result in the whole tooth going, it can be really debilitating
"Simple. Let them live out their desires. In doing so, they will eventually die out."
I absolutely love this line because "they" is supposed to refer to the desires, but it can just as easily read like they're saying that letting kids do whatever they want will eventually kill them (Which is exactly what would happen) lmaooooo
That was how I read it at first. A refreshingly direct demonstration of :brainworms:
I am convinced that people with these kind of opinions have never been responsible for anything
First it was bedtimes, then the noschoolers, now whatever this shit is. The answer to bourgeois systems of coercion is not to simply leave your children at the mercy of predatory marketing jfc.
10/10 answer
:rat-salute-2:
(watching my malnourished adolescent son slowly, steadily burying himself in ever-rising pile of peanut butter cup paper liners)
he’s approaching enlightenment
gotta admit this one was even better.
My middle son jabbed a fork in an outlet once, I guess I should have supplied him with more forks.
It’s insane. The other day I was on :reddit-logo: and this was my exact response when it came to drunk driving. Like the statistics are there, if you live in a state that is more far dependent then you’re going to have more DUIs. Solution would be denser housing zones but :amerikkka: cant accept anything else besides their suburban hellholes. And then saying “well don’t drink” is their solution. Shit didn’t work with “just say no” yet they think it’s going to work here.
Maybe I was an unuseually good kid but most my childhood my parents were nice to em and I just wamted to be nice back. So if they asked me not to do a thing I didn't. But then like, when I did break a rule, I knew I was breaking it. Getting spanked wouldn't have changed my behavior. You can see kids where there is an escalating arms race of punishment and that shit is whack, it doesn't work and it is cruel besides
The Buddha famously said "when you get what you desire, you realize you don't actually want it that much and learn restraint automatically"
