It is perfectly valid to criticise her for working with a sexpest serial self-admitted abuser, chaser and trans hating shit bag neoliberal grifter if she is criticising others of working with those with questionable lgbt party policies. The fact that she is a hypocrite highlights that she doesn't apply this moral belief in a principled way, and that brings to question whether there are alternative motives.
I am not the same person. Don't avoid my point. I genuinely don't care how you word it. She's FRIENDS with Vaush, you're right, that's actually worse than simply working with people you don't align with. I was in fact being more charitable with my phrasing compared to the other user.
I don't really care. This is a pretty obvious conjuration of the old-fashioned left-on-left circlejerk and I'm not going to assist you in falling for an op designed to undermine recent successes.
The op here is that the Greek left are literally the strongest left in all of fucking Europe going into a period of immense energy crisis, shutdown of industries and literal power rationing. A shitty internet forum disappearing pales in comparison to the importance the actual offline left holds in europe at this moment in time.
I do not agree with their line but ffs this is on par with the shits who attack latin american parties for not having a perfect party line on lgbt issues at highly critical moments in time. This shit ALWAYS comes from white people in northern america.
Which instance of "not playing nice" are you talking about? Overthrowing them was the right decision without a question. They were going to collapse the country back into fascism because they couldn't adequately judge the conditions of the situation. There was an actual reason that the action in question mattered, it wasn't just petty bullshit that needs to touch grass.
No, I thought you meant Keffals and responded to the standard bigot trope the only appropriate way. Apologies for misunderstanding you. You might be able to understand why, under current conditions, it would be a sore subject for trans people.
all good, but it's fair - it should never be implied that trans people are sex offenders just because of their existence, and if my post wasn't clear enough to the point that it could be interpreted that I was implying that, then I should be clearer and more careful.
Not being combative here, it was a misunderstanding but i could have done better.
Vaush is a shit you will find absolutely no fucking friends of his here.
Vaush is a shit, but shitting out Destiny's talking points is fucking disgusting.
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He DID call trans people subhuman. For fuck's sake.
I'm talking about using him to attack Keffals because the circular firing squad has decided it is her turn.
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It is perfectly valid to criticise her for working with a sexpest serial self-admitted abuser, chaser and trans hating shit bag neoliberal grifter if she is criticising others of working with those with questionable lgbt party policies. The fact that she is a hypocrite highlights that she doesn't apply this moral belief in a principled way, and that brings to question whether there are alternative motives.
We've gone from 'is friends with' to 'works with' seemlessly, have we? Convenient.
I am not the same person. Don't avoid my point. I genuinely don't care how you word it. She's FRIENDS with Vaush, you're right, that's actually worse than simply working with people you don't align with. I was in fact being more charitable with my phrasing compared to the other user.
I don't really care. This is a pretty obvious conjuration of the old-fashioned left-on-left circlejerk and I'm not going to assist you in falling for an op designed to undermine recent successes.
The op here is that the Greek left are literally the strongest left in all of fucking Europe going into a period of immense energy crisis, shutdown of industries and literal power rationing. A shitty internet forum disappearing pales in comparison to the importance the actual offline left holds in europe at this moment in time.
I do not agree with their line but ffs this is on par with the shits who attack latin american parties for not having a perfect party line on lgbt issues at highly critical moments in time. This shit ALWAYS comes from white people in northern america.
Was the Bolsheviks not playing nice with the Mensheviks an instance of the "circular firing squad"
Which instance of "not playing nice" are you talking about? Overthrowing them was the right decision without a question. They were going to collapse the country back into fascism because they couldn't adequately judge the conditions of the situation. There was an actual reason that the action in question mattered, it wasn't just petty bullshit that needs to touch grass.
they're both paedophiles and no one here likes either of them
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are you disputing that both vaush and destiny are paedophiles?
No, I thought you meant Keffals and responded to the standard bigot trope the only appropriate way. Apologies for misunderstanding you. You might be able to understand why, under current conditions, it would be a sore subject for trans people.
aight, the convo seemed to be about vaush and destiny and people taking one or the other's line, but apologies for the confusion
No need to apologize. They have both engaged in unacceptable behavior with minors. I misunderstood you because of current context.
all good, but it's fair - it should never be implied that trans people are sex offenders just because of their existence, and if my post wasn't clear enough to the point that it could be interpreted that I was implying that, then I should be clearer and more careful.
Not being combative here, it was a misunderstanding but i could have done better.