lmao

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ironically they literally have done exactly that. They’ve had pretty consistently the most grounded takes on Ukraine of anyone, basically saying every time “Ukraine is a Nazi infested corrupt neoliberal hell nearly indistinguishable from Russia”

    The only thing they were wrong about was they predicted Russia wouldn’t invade, but I still maintain that was the right thing to believe at the time.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The only thing they were wrong about was they predicted Russia wouldn’t invade, but I still maintain that was the right thing to believe at the time.

      That was mostly because the media kept releasing the same story about "CIA report says Putin about to invade TOMORROW" and then it didn't happen and repeat the same story a few days later. That happened what 3 or 4 times?

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        They've predicted it about once or twice a year since 2014, I think. Boy, wolf etc

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        I remember the Ukrainans the first few days were actually telling the west to calm down so they could try to find a negotiated solution. Then the CIA hander must have called and "clarified" the situation for President Big Z

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Even Zelensky himself didn’t believe (or at least didn’t publicly say) that Russia would invade lol.

        Wasn't it a kind-of minor scandal when Biden's people were saying "We tried to warn you!" a day or two after Zelensky basically brushed off the possibility in a prior interview?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The only thing they were wrong about was they predicted Russia wouldn’t invade

      Them and pretty much everyone on here, too.

      • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Sure, but a lot of libs are now pretending that the left angle was not "the CIA is probably lying and Putin won't invade since it would be bad for him", but was instead "it is good if Russia invades". There is a big difference between "I think GW Bush won't invade Iraq, because that would be crazy" and "GW Bush should invade Iraq, it would be good". One is misreading a situation, the other is being very very wrong.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      The only thing they were wrong about was they predicted Russia wouldn’t invade, but I still maintain that was the right thing to believe at the time.

      CTH: "Invading Ukraine would be such a stupid idea. It would be an absolute quagmire that would degrade both countries and decimate the economy of the entire Eastern European region. No way Putin would be this foolhardy."

      Putin: "I'm doing it"

      Everything the Chapos warn would happen comes to pass

      The Internet: "CTH was wrong on Russia."

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Like I said, I think their reasoning was absolutely correct and I agreed with them then and have agreed with them on everything since. It was in fact a very stupid thing to do and thinking it wouldn’t happen was the reasonable prediction based on all evidence.

        The logic that predicted Putin wouldn’t invade is the same logic that would’ve correctly predicted every similar situation in the last 20 years.