In some ways, we wanted to do an origin story for Sauron.
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“I hope after the last episode airs, viewers watch the whole season again
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“Season one opens with: Who is Galadriel? Where did she come from? What did she suffer? Why is she driven?” says Payne. “We’re doing the same thing with Sauron in season two. We’ll fill in all the missing pieces.”
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“Sauron can now just be Sauron,” McKay adds. “Like Tony Soprano or Walter White. He’s evil, but complexly evil.
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Season two has a canonical story
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"Complexly evil" my dude he was an angel equivalent who sold his soul to the devil equivalent and was a literal werewolf/vampire king and after the devil got got he wanted to bend the entire world to his will personally
Getting the Numenoreans to worship Melkor was metal as hell
doing this whole arc to get in a boat and then 2 seconds later theyre at the destination galloping across a field lmao
not even a landing scene
Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the first time they name the setting with on screen text too? Like rather than just having the uruk say "Mordor" they introduce a new and worse means of communicating with the audience.
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lost interest around episode 4. like i could've handled all of that, but then they lost 1500 years somewhere and i figured the show isnt going to be showing the story i wanted to see. :shrug-outta-hecks:
Like how they spend way too long showing people suffering and in pain for no storytelling payoff.
Holy shit I forgot how awful Lost was. The entire plot of the show was basically just a never-ending series of Reddit writing prompts literally right up until the very end.
I never saw an episode, but just from hearing the absurd plots, I was calling it that Lost wasn't going anywhere and either had to ignore every mystery or pull some "they were dead all along" bullshit.
I checked out when the polar bear showed up and it was clear they were just making shit up as they went along and there was no mystery to be revealed.
Say what you like about Whedon (and I'll say many fucking things) but at least his characters had arcs and reasons to suffer. Season 2 of Angel is still amazing.
Nooo you have to show medieval combat surgeries it's integral to the story.
I honestly really enjoyed it but yes, it’s too slow, it spends way too much time with characters slowly staring at each other, and I actually would prefer if they didn’t keep doing callbacks (if that’s what they’re called) to the LOTR movies. Elrond’s lengthy speeches about mythological characters are boring and he also looks like Doogie Houser. The (Super) High King Gil-Galad looks like Liam Neeson. The Harfoots are dirtier than wild animals. Galadriel is genocidal. But I have to say, I enjoyed most of it. I liked Gandalf, Numenor, Sauron, and even the cop elf.
I don’t care if it’s not true to Tolkien because Tolkien was a reactionary. They should keep moving away from him and somehow include a scene in the next season with Tolkien nerds / chuds getting crushed by oliphants.
we wanted to do an origin story for Sauron.
The first age is thatway <---
The Tolkien estate won't sell the rights to The Silmarillion. This was even when the movies were coming out.
This show is awful too many mystery boxes with obvious answers that took all season to plod along to their inevitable conclusions.
Have to assume Bezos really did insert a bunch of his own ideas into the script.
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Having no Durin or Adar in the finale was a real letdown. They were my favorite parts of the show.
The Mount Doom eruption was cool, and the buildup was all right. I'm just not sure the rest of the season was worth it just for that moment.
I was mostly bored and frustrated with the Numenor plotline.
Elrond and Durin’s friendship was a real highlight. The two actors had great chemistry, I thought.
The dialogue was poor overall. Adar was a big victim of his dialogue being cut off, like when he was giving instructions to the elf to tell the human villagers. Adar says something like, "I have a message for you to take back to the villagers..." Then it's a hard cut to the next scene, and the audience is left wondering for a few minutes with this little mystery, what could Adar have asked? It was just a message to surrender. The same trick was used several times, so we rarely get to sit with a character or discover things like internal motivations without the characters having to go on an unhinged monologue about orc genocide.
The show did not make a convincing case to me that the Mt. Doom eruption shouldn't have been a 2-minute long youtube video by a well-regarded 3D artist who spent a long time on it to get all the details just right with the title "The Eruption of Mt. Doom" and it gets several million views, and a bunch of likes and people enjoy it and move on with their lives. Why was $500m and years of people's lives devoted to making this show?
I don’t understand how adding water to Mount Doom makes it explode but w/e.
You know making magic rings is a kind of chemistry if you think about it
Can't wait for Sauron to throw a whole pizza onto the rooftop of his castle
Another thing I don't see talked about much is how the writers of the show had to only use material in the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings since Amazon didn't get rights to The Silmarillion or any other published Tolkien works. Idk if having the rights to other material would have changed anything, but that is something that really stood out to me and a reason why copyright laws are bad.
Why would they do that? Walter White was the good guy. The curtains are blue.
So do we get neat singing with melkor fucking up his aria and losing tempo?
But do they have rights to whiplash, critically acclaimed musical kino?
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