• jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    in the replies:

    plant based future would also not have a lot of indigenous people in it.

    :jesse-wtf:

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              • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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                Being shitty to them while trading/selling animal goods. I’ve personally heard stories of being harassed both in person and online by vegans.

                how are they buying or selling animal goods to vegans if they are rural?

                Pressuring their state to further restrict their hunting rights or ability to trade their products in other locales (for an example, see the documentary “the angry inuk” about the effect animal rights protests have on indigenous seal hunters)

                maybe I misinterpreted what you wrote but I was imagining actually rural indigenous folk. Like rural enough that their groceries can be 5-20x what they are in urban areas. If they are that remote itd be impossible to actually enforce any hunting restrictions. A lso in states like Oklahoma indigenous folk have their own land still and typically do not follow state restrictions on said land . The simple solution would be to continue that olive branch.

      • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        These hunting practices are thousands of years old and deeply ingrained in their culture

        cool, doesnt fucking matter

    • s0ykaf [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      i dunno if this is the point he's trying to make, but i've seen indigenous people (not from north america, from the south) saying veganism is white guilt (agreed) bullshit (not that much) and any sort of imposition would just be another attempt to "civilize" them

      • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Of course you just have to look at all these vegans insisting indigenous populations abandon their traditional ways of life gestures wildly to basically no one

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        • s0ykaf [he/him]
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          if veganism ever became mainstream and it wasn't within a socialist project, it would be imposed upon these populations in no time, let's not kid ourselves

          they all know white vegans would treat a cow with far more respect than they would people of color

          i'm not saying i agree (except with the white part; it's definitely true in brazil), i'm saying i understand their point and their skepticism

        • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          it's me, i'm that vegan

          hunting isn't fine because it's tradition or some bullshit

          if you can stop doing it then stop doing it

      • justlikebart [any]
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        2 years ago

        veganism is white guilt (agreed)

        Vegans in the US are less likely to be white than the general population by a hefty margin.

        The stereotype of white vegans isn't held up by reality.

        • s0ykaf [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Vegans in the US

          i did say south america, not north

    • macabrett
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      2 years ago

      Guarantee you their only exposure to indigenous people is Disney

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        no u see when the state of kansas bans meat eating theyll arm all the bison with shotguns to defend themselves from dangerous hunters