• EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I really like Lower Decks, but I’m glad they’re giving it a dignified end. Also a fan of SNW and I’m happy to see more of it.

    I do wish there were more episodes per season with a lower budget. We need less fancy-set-piece Trek and more sitting-in-a-boardroom Trek, imo. The lower budgets and 20+ episode season orders of previous Trek series forced the creative teams to be more judicious about VFX and rely more on the writing. We got stuff like bottle episodes and slice-of-life episodes and recurring themes from reused sets, props, art assets, etc. Now every episode has to be its own little feature film, and while that’s fun in one sense, I can’t help but feel like we’re losing out in other areas.

    I appreciate the episodic nature of SNW after the serialized nature of DIS (which was to questionable benefit), but it almost starts to feel like an anthology when every episode is so different. I miss the old network TV style of every episode being standalone while also being very recognizably of a piece. Star Trek was born from network TV, and it’s weird that the most recent Trek series just aren’t in that format.

    Anyways, old man rant over, thanks for listening.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Preach, Lower Decks had that going on cause it was a comedy but it's otherwise totally lacking in trek now and that part sucks. SNW has put in moments but overall when I watch trek I wanna really wish I was there and the new ones seen too scary of a place to be. Even on Deep Space Nine I'd hunker down with Morn when shit got too real and play Dabbo the rest of the time.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Yeah as sad as I am to see LD go, I'd rather it ride off into the sunset with some dignity

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        Same but I'm very certain they could have gotten another 5 seasons or more out of it. In the end it's gonna be 50 episodes, which ain't much.

        • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          The nice thing about an animated series is that they can always just pick it back up, or substantially reuse a lot of the material for something new without a lot of production headaches. Futurama was canceled by Fox, got picked up again years later by Comedy Central, and is getting new episodes on Hulu as we speak a decade after it last aired. I'm hopeful, as hinted in the article, that the current run is ending because of the premise stretching thin (perhaps also for dipshit studio business reasons) and not because they're done making animated Trek shows. While the show itself is great, I do appreciate that they might want to escape the lower decks concept and do something different.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            7 months ago

            I don't think it was through choice since season 5 is probably near the end of production by now and they've has the possibility of cancelation looming every single season. L

        • Dickey_Butts [none/use name]
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          7 months ago

          One good thing about ending it early is that is makes it more likely it could come back. If they run it into the ground then that's all she wrote.

          It always blows my mind how TNG had like 28 hour long episodes per season. That is absolutely absurd and I can only imagine how tired the actors would get from shooting.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            7 months ago

            Very very very tired. And they were the ones with time off between seasons, writers got 2 weeks and then they're writing the next season and crew would be taking down and building sets or doing other gigs.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    Paramount should really just let me handle Star Trek. Keep Ld and SNW going, they've got momentum still, blast it up to 15 episodes person season for SNW and 20 for LD, LD keeps a similar per episode budget where SNW has to do 15 upsides on the same budget they were doing 10, this way they can't all be blowouts and they gotta do a few smaller episodes and the big ones were too big anyway. Next imma get me Ronald D Moore and do an anthology about the dominion war in a Ken Burns Civil War meets The Clone Wars TV show kinda thing. I've got a half cooked idea with the temporary bad name of Star Trek gamma where it's been found the dominion has disappeared entirely and without explanation and a ship is sent to the gamma quadrant to investigate while some space bullshit like tachyon or whatever are being emitted from the wormhole causing warp core explosions at random or whatever, a bad deal for everyone and Star fleet has most of the galaxy on the side of destroying the wormhole and Bajor which has become a giant power within the federation capable of succeeding to the federations loss being pretty defensive of it and they do have people on the other side still. Space politcs on one end and a stranded-ish ship exploring a big mystery in unknown space on the other. It could also be called Voyager but Good Now.