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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Stop making subreddits using the same usernames you used on /r/cth.

    Also, don't make new usernames and use them on the browser you used for your old username. Reddit associates them using the user-agent and some other metrics.

    Probably don't use the same IP either.

    Switch browsers or spoof your user-agent.

    All previous chapo users are basically shadowbanned from making any new subreddits regardless of whether they're relevant to cth or not. I discovered this when I made /r/groverfurr which is obviously an author subreddit and not a ban evasion sub. It was banned in just a few hours.

    Anyway, the above measures result in you being able to make new user accounts if you're permabanned and keep getting new accounts auto-banned daily so I assume they de-associate you from whatever automated system reddit has in place for associating users to prevent chapos from making new subreddits.

    • Jorick [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      So much for that marketplace of ideas lmao.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      If this is true, the big brain move is for Chapo posters to squat rightoid sub names whenever there's a new Shabeepo project or whatever to pre-emptively ban them.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Good idea. They're probably doing this for former T_D users too though. I would guess all the hate-sub users are being treated the same and we were taken out in the hate subreddit wave.

        • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Hahahaha, imagine the Reddit admins treating right-wing and left-wing posters the same way.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      None of that matters they just want to erase any left presence on the site to make donors/advertisers/whoever happy

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        No there's more to it than that. The issue isn't left-presence. It's left-presence that creates any effective political funnel from liberal to leftist.

        They're pretending to tolerate all the other spaces because none of them are lib-converters like CTH was when it was blasting off. MTC got the chop too because it was acting as a funnel from CTH into ML. Lib > CTH > MTC was the full pipeline that they killed.

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Is it possible to change my browser fingerprint by reinstalling it and changing up some of the settings or something? Or am I no longer able to use reddit on chrome altogether. I noticed a while back my accounts can no longer vote on reddit, I had to switch to firefox in order to make an account that could vote.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I believe that using a user-agent switcher should disassociate your browser, at least within reddit's automated "these users are the same person" system. You can get a chrome extension to do that. I don't believe reddit is doing extensive browser-fingerprinting beyond this as they would face considerable backlash by privacy nerds on the site for doing so.

        Obviously don't use the old account while using the account that uses a spoofed user-agent.

        Now, this might not stand up to a manual review if they have other factors they track too, but my experience has been that it does get passed their automated system which is likely what people are losing subreddits for. Admins aren't furiously stalking chapochat every second of the day to ban subreddits, it's an automated ban triggered with a timer on it to confuse people and make it harder to figure out why/what triggered it.

        • cosecantphi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Thanks! I'll look into this. I'll probably just delete all my old accounts so I don't accidentally contaminate any new ones. Will be very annoying getting the "Hmm, two week old account, highly suspicious, how's the weather in Russia today, Boris?" response from libs for a while though

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Dessert vs Desert, unless that's intentional.

        Also, r/BadFaithPodcast is the banned one but r/BadFaithPod is private, is that one of y'all/us?

          • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Care to elaborate? Did you already try the correct one and they didn't allow it?

              • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Wouldn't want anyone discussing the Highway of Death outside of the Call of Duty subreddit.

                Gonna engage in self harm and see if the "ethics in video games journalism" people ever opined on this particular act of dishonesty.

                Edit why the hell is this formatted like code

                Anyway its as bad as I expected https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/do4ywc/cod_highway_of_death_controversy_look_out_for

                • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  Wow that comments section is just as disgusting as I expected it to be.

                  Idon'tknowwhatIexpected.deaddove

                • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Listen fat how do I escape code format

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/do4ywc/cod_highway_of_death_controversy_look_out_for

        • asaharyev [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          PodcastBadFaith is the one we created that got banned.

    • glk [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I imagine they can detect incoming traffic originating from other domains too. If I click a reddit link on here they can see it and flag any account im logged into at that time.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I'm not 100% sure on whether Reddit itself has access to this information. I think their advertisers might do if they're running tracking tools and cookies across multiple sites but I think reddit only has anonymised data for those things. Internal traffic is tracked though so they know when your account visited x thread from y link internally. They have a full picture of internal brigading from subreddits.

        They probably log it as "from external referral source" or paraphrase.

        Could be wrong though. Worth keeping in mind.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Browsers do generally send a "referrer tag" actually telling Google Analytics etc. where the user came from. Privacy settings often block this, but most people probably don't have it blocked.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Reddit associates them using the user-agent and some other metrics.

      I would like to know more.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I don't know the other metrics :') Voting patterns are probably in use checking how often users vote alongside other accounts and building a picture of group-voting. IP addresses will definitely be logged and used as a metric. I think it's safe to assume there's probably more things in use tracking users on phone versions of the site or apps compared to the pc version. Reddit probably also knows exactly where you work.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They can just tell some stuff about your browser, system, and location.

        Because there are so many combinations, (chrome version X, device Y, in town Z, with adblocker A, language B, etc. and many other settings) you have an almost unique fingerprint. They can see that you logged out of one account and into another one, and then those two accounts are forever linked in their system.