Only decent country in Europe change my mind.

  • PrincessMagnificent [they/them, any]
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    2 years ago

    My fellow Irishmen, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw TERF Island forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    Only decent country in Europe change my mind.

    I won't you're right. They were also the only country in Europe to get colonized. Interesting relationship there :soviet-hmm:

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's more that Ireland is still currently colonized. Cyprus, Finland, Netherlands, and Norway have also been colonies

      • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        the netherlands were never a colony. unless you count the dutch colonizing the innocent alluvial marshes :theory-gary:

          • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            feudal overlordship. no-one was particularly bothered until the calvinists started stirring shit

            • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Habsburg domination of the low countries was justified

              i will die on this hill smh 😤

              • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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                2 years ago

                it was entirely legal according to the succession laws of their [low countries'] country, and when the calvinists started the spanish acted fully within their rights under the Peace of Augsburg :sicko-luna:

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Calling Norway a colony is a bit too much in my opinion. It was more of a dynastic bullshit situation where the king who only cared about you if he wanted you to pay taxes or be a soldier spoke a different dialect than you did yourself. The Danes and the Swedes were not angels but I don't think they engineered famines or tried to eradicate Norwegian culture and Norwegians were not seen as being inferior to Danes or Swedes.

        Iceland and the Faroe Islands are better candidates for European victims of imperialism but even there there was not the racist component that you found in Ireland.

        Kalaallit Nunaat (Greenland) is definitely a victim of still ongoing imperialism but I don't know if they count as European.

        • kfc [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          if we're talking about colonialism / imperialism in Scandinavia then definitely the Sapmi were / are victims

      • kfc [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        you're conflating imperialism / feudal dominion with colonialism here tho

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's wild how Ireland snapped forward after legalizing abortion in 2018. It's like the hard-right acceleration in the rest of the west, except in reverse.

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      By 2030 they're going to build a big ass rocket in the port of Dublin to push the entire country west into the Atlantic Ocean

    • honeynut
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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I am no longer for Irish Unification, for that does not go far enough. I am now for Irish Expansion. England shall become East Ireland. Scotland can be an autonomous zone in Northeast Ireland.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Based country. Start the countdown until irish people get ejected from whitedom like Russians have.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ireland has done a weird dash left from being an extremely hardcore catholic liberal state to legalising abortion and gay marriage by an overwhelming referendum. I think a lot of Irish people are much further left than the state

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I think a lot of Irish people are much further left than the state

      The people are much further left than the state in lots and lots of places. That's just the way things are when you live in a dictatorship of capital where the ruling class actively works against and aims to deepen divisions between the people.

    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I think a lot of Irish people are much further left than the state

      Like @AcidSmiley also said: that's the case everywhere. For example, check out this study in Nature about the difference between actual support for climate policies, and the perceived support for it among Americans.

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The release of two big reports in Ireland about the Catholic church broke the back of catholicism as a political force in the country.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Secours_Mother_and_Baby_Home

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_in_Ireland

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    There's other places in Europe that plan similar measures. Germany also wants to include gender identity among the protected characteristics for anti-discrimination laws, which is just what Ireland did here.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Think Sweden has had it included since 5 or so years back.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        the actual problem, whether it's in Sweden or Ireland, will be getting that enforced, because judges are extremely likely to not have the slightest idea what even constitutes transphobia.

        • Barabas [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, it is good to have it on the books at least, but discrimination on gender or racial basis being illegal hasn't stopped racism or sexism.

          • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah,these things have systemic causes. As long as we live in a capitalist society, we will live in a society that has an interest in turning the workers against each other, that has an interest in maintaining racism and national chauvinism as a foundation for imperialist subjugation, that has an interest in maintaining patriarchal and by extension queerphobic structures because toxic masculinity is inextrivably linked to capitalist competetiveness and to militarism. You cannot fully excise bigottry from a capitalist society.

            Such small reformist steps can still be major advancements for marginalized people, though. It is doctoring at symptoms, it is restricted to the indiviual level, and that's even before hindrances such as how hard it is to prove that somebody said something bigotted about you in person. But it does make a difference if, say, being a transphobe to your co-worker is legal or if it isn't.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :get-in: :gui-trans: :frothingfash: :stalin-gun-1::connolly-shining: