1940s germany also includes the DDR :thinking-about-it:
but yes id love to live in a bombed out alleyway in saxony like a rat, good talk
I think the chosen picture for that option makes it pretty clear as to what's meant here
I mean, the 1930s was rough just about anywhere. I'm hard pressed to think of a country I'd like to live in during that decade. Maybe Argentina or Australia?
But asking to be in Germany in the 1940s is like saying you wish you were in the Confederate South in the 1860s. Its just psycho revanchist Maine Todd "If I was there, we would have won!" shit.
I think the implication here is, "would you rather be in the Great Purge or the Holocaust", and people seriously overestimate how big the Great Purge was. Not that it didn't suck for anyone who got drawn into it, but let's have some perspective: it lasted about a year and a half and at its worst there were still fewer Soviets being imprisoned than there are Americans being imprisoned today. The purge stands out because the baseline of Soviet repression was so much lower than it was during that period, while the modern prison industrial complex is something we've gotten used to for generations.
The other thing they might be getting at is the famine of 1930-33 - but that also killed fewer people than the Holocaust, far fewer people when you take into account total population. Of course, the famine killed everyone more or less equally, while the Holocaust targeted groups the Nazis didn't like - so perhaps the average redditor is making a calculated decision about which regime they would be more likely to survive after all.
About 750k people were killed in the Great Purge according to the Soviet Archives. that's bad, but it's not nearly on the same level of the Holocaust and was at least nominally done for political reasons instead of just race hatred and a desire for more land.
Like don't get me wrong, the Great Purge was a Soviet L and at the very least they should have been far more cautious about how they went about it, but it's not comparable to hte Holocaust.
Going to pick Germany in the 1940s.
Führerbunker, Berlin, May 2nd, 1945 to be exact.
You and the comrades are celebrating the end of the battle for Berlin, having a drink and taking turns pissing on Hitler’s burning corpse.
:josus-stalin:
i mean, if you're white and middle class and can't imagine ever being anything else, one of these is definitively better for you
Me at 25 - Liberal democracy is cool, pacificism and non-violent resistance are the way forward, the Civil Rights movement made major, lasting achievements, and there are justifiable international interventions.
Me at 35 - Face the wall, Liberal!
“Actually if you lived in Nazi Germany you would have supported them”
We assume of others what we know of ourselves
Same energy as "All people are lying about feeling empathy about others" and "Gay people are just faking" and "Atheists are just faking because no one could actually believe there is no god" and a bunch of other bullshit. Even Liberals who assume that everyone is ultimately like them and wants the same thigns they do.
Both would be pretty fucking bad, doesn’t 30s USSR mean “the USSR that’s actively being invaded by Nazi Germany”?
operation barbarossa began in the middle of 1941
not that the 30s were that easy in the ussr i'm assuming but reddit really does just have that many nazis
Oh interesting I thought it was earlier. My knowledge of WW2 dates sucks.
And oh yeah for sure I’m very aware that’s why the poll went that way lol
:sicko-charging: and now i ascend the throne, secure in my position as the one true florida-based power poster!
spoiler
but fr i looked it up to make sure i had the date right.
Nazis invaded Poland in 1939 so that might be your confusion
also the way time works if you live in Russia in the 1930's the 1941 invasion will effect you
Yes, but the results of this poll have nothing to do with the material conditions of either country at the time, and everything to do with the fact that redditors are nazis.
Oh yeah very aware of that, and even then it’s “would you rather live in Nazi germany or be invaded by them”
My bisexual communist ass would've wound up in Dachau twice over, but even assuming I was able to avoid that, the alternative as an adult male would be getting conscripted into an army that was systemically exterminating millions.
So, yeah. USSR please.
1930s USSR so I can tell them to keep going after they reach Berlin and also strengthen relations with China's then fledging Maoist movement.
We invent the time machine, go back to fight in WWII, and then in 1945 the three of us who survive the war are yelling at our Lieutenant "THE US HAS NO MORE NUKES! LET'S FUCKING GO! WE CAN CRUSH PATTON RIGHT NOW? WHAT ARE YOU A FUCKING REVISIONIST?" right up until we're shot for being annoying.
damn if its a representative crop of reddit that site's gotta be what, 90+% male & white?
tiny chance of going to a gulag/reeducation vs. 100% chance of being flung at the red army :thonk:
i they might be relishing the opportunity to commit warcrimes :gulag:
Renegade option. Going to where the nazis are makes killing them easier.
I too would prefer to live somewhere that matched my world view perfectly.
1100s America, teaching them the magic of gunpowder and iron
imagine preferring to live in a fascist state over living in a socialist state :gulag: