Liberals assuming that leftists would have voted Democrat anyway lol
Population 725,177
Total votes: 326,234
It was the communists who led to our defeat!
Liberals financing the campaign of Conservatives and complaining when the Conservatives win.
The liberal "Democratic Party" appears likely to have cost the Working Class Party a House seat.
yeah I hate the idea the democrats are owed a seat it is deeply and ironically undemocratic
Assuming that every single Working Class Party vote would've gone to the Dems and that every single Libertarian vote would've gone to the Republicans, there's a gap of 707 favoring the Democrat. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Just be a better candidate. Electoralism is fucked either way but this was the Dem's race to lose based on the numbers.
I can't even find anything to suggest they're Trots. They're inspired by Debs, Malcom X, the IWW and believe in forming a vanguard party. I think this is like chuds calling everything they don't like "communism", but for leftists. I've seen people here do it, too. Stupid, political strawman shit.
Honestly a true vanguard party in :amerikkka: should really be regional and focused on taking over their state so there should be at least 50
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Infighting is obviously bad but multiple parties don't have to fight if they all have different territory
Ideally you should have a federation of regional vanguard parties, individually focused on their own voting district but working together with all the other parties in their state and ultimately building to work with parties across the country to get our party members elected at every level of government
Yeah electoralism is lib bullshit so yeah I'm a :LIB: but we really could do something like this and win, some small town elections come down to only a few hundred people or less voting and we could take some power back from the ruling class
If the chuds think the school boards are full of communists now, I say let's show them what that really looks like
We cannot win at the federal level, we should accept that for now but we can win at the local, then the state level and keep building on that
School boards, state assembly, sheriffs, mayors and so many more are within our grasp if we only seize the opportunity
Then again I am stoned off my ass on these edibles I made so maybe this is but a pipe dream
If each local vanguard also has a citizen's militia I'm 100% on board with this.
you think this but then you realize state governments have strict regulations on cities to prevent them from doing commie shit like rent controls
You can do the best allowable at the local level, then run for state office with a real base and a demonstrated track record.
in the UK, newspapers have called leftists 'Trots' for decades due to Militant
it may have had a point initially, but eventually it just becomes a catchall -ist slur, like how Tories can't help but call moderate social democrats 'marxists' all the fucking time
The libs believe they can just run as far right as possible because everyone to their left must vote for them.
it's the blairite strategy assume the working class are guaranteed and campaign to the middle class. it worked for a while but eventually the working class no longer felt the labour party represented them in large part because it didn't anymore
it was classic Blairism sell tomorrow for today
And then Labour got used to gleefully punching down on the working class. Calling them all sorts of ugly names, getting caught on camera doing it, and making barely concealed apologies through clenched teeth that fooled nobody. Right up until 2019 when the working class revolted and voted Conservative. And the reaction from Labour? A "my God what have I done" moment followed by deep introspection and change back into a party that represents working class interests? Hell no. The Labour reaction was fury that they had been betrayed.
i always find it amusing how the party is called "labour" and seems to be very much against the thing they are named for. "democrat" and "republican" are vague enough to mean whatever but i'm surprised they haven't just changed their name by now because there has got to be some dissonance everytime it's said out loud.
like when they went all anti-union recently. it's like you fuckers have a party literally named for the working class.
'Republican' did have a very brief period of meaning something back before and during the civil war. There was a push for the federal government to be a grand republic or whatever.
At the risk of doing great man history, that all died with Thaddeus :chaddeus: Stevens and the failure to commit to reconstruction, like everything else good about the party.
And to be clear, Republican voters are much closer to the Democratic party’s positions than I am. If you’re mad that people didn’t vote for the “close enough” “viable” candidate, be mad at the Republicans, the ones actually close to your position!
They believe votes should be taken with the outcome in mind rather than personal idealism. That's what the logic is.
Looks the the Dems cost themselves a house seat by being shit.
Is that liberal browbeating I hear? Oh yeah, must be election season :comfy-cool:
the party exists to attract the voters not the other way around. It is up to the Democrats to provide the answer why should people vote for the democrats and they aren't the other guy is inadequate
Does anyone here live in or around this district? How dirty was the Dem primary?
Googled the Dem candidate and he's a conservative who says his favorite Supreme Court justices are Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. He also tried to stop a 12 year old girl (who was raped and impregnated by her brother) from getting an abortion when he was Macomb County Prosecutor and said “This is looking like a case of youthful sexual experimentation”
If only more leftists had voted for him 😔
He was also indicted for bribery (and found not guilty, but like, come on) : https://www.macombdaily.com/2006/09/28/marlinga-not-guilty/
The two bribery and wire fraud charges revolved around Marlinga allegedly exerting influence in two criminal cases while he was prosecutor in exchange for more than $30,000 in campaign contributions for his 2002 unsuccessful run for Congress. The two other charges were in connection with campaign donations between a Marlinga supporter and Barcia.
It’s one of the reddest districts in Michigan. It has never gone below 60% republican voting in the modern era. It’s why perpetual loser John Jame last ran there so he could finally win.
Also that 1.8 % is on the average for third parties in congressional elections in that district.
In short nothing to see here folks dems are just trying to do anything but blame their fallen angel Cuomo for loosing the house.
:party-sicko: they're gross and their ideology is already what both of the two major parties believe in (except each of them believe it but with extra steps) and everyone knows it
