lol Trump the "anti-imperialist."

"At LeAsT hE's FrEiNdS wItH pUtIn"

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    7 months ago

    Anyone who thinks Trump is somehow anti war or anti imperialist is clueless. He's incompetent and sometimes accidentally hurts imperial interests as a result but he definitely loves imperialism

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      He loves it, but there’s no way he knows the meaning of the word. Just like liberals, tbh.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Even if he was anti-imperialist, he's not going to successfully challenge the State Department on anything of importance. Sure, he'll have a totally symbolic meeting with the DPRK, but when he orders troops out of Syria? They just lie to him and say it's done, and because he doesn't care and isn't competent that's the end of it.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Honestly I envy the people who think he's anti-war or anti-imperoalist. Every claim in that direction has such a make statements or promises without checking with your staff energy, and I really want to be the person whose professional life is so good they can't recognize that.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    The ”anti-imperialist” who drone striked Soleimani and almost started a war.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      His bumbling hurts at least as much as it helps. He also rolled back the modest normalization efforts Obama had done with Iran and Cuba.

      • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        He also recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and the Golan Heights as part of Israel. The Biden admin could've easily rolled back at least some of these, but of course they didn't.

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
        hexagon
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        7 months ago

        Yeah, he coup'd Bolvia and tried to coup Venezuela and reverted to crippling sanctions on Cuba.

          • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
            hexagon
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            7 months ago

            I was there. They succeeded for a time. But it was reversed in 2021 or thereabouts.

            What? I'm not going to thank Biden for that one just cause the coup failed under his watch.

            What matters is that the coups will happen no matter the President and you shouldn't wantonly pick favorites.

            • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              I didn't say you should thank Biden, in fact I didn't remember under whose watch the coup failed, I thought it was still under Trump. The coup failed nonetheless.

              • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
                hexagon
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                7 months ago

                So if it failed nonetheless, I think it would've failed regardless of whether or not Biden or Trump were in office.

                I think we agree that neither are better than the other.

                • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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                  7 months ago

                  I don't think anyone on this site would say Biden is markedly better than Trump, lol

                  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
                    hexagon
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                    7 months ago

                    And I don't think anyone on this site would say that Trump is markedly better than Biden lmao

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    literally no difference between him and brandon

    its either Obama admin ghouls in charge or Bush admin ghouls

  • D61 [any]
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    7 months ago

    chanting as I i-votedRedman/Blueman

    "Four More Wars! Four More Wars"

  • assyrian
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    7 months ago

    wow I’ve been posting on here this whole time because I heard hexbear loves Trump, do you folx not?

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I think he's funny, and the funniest thing of all would be his execution.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Or Puyi him so we can keep his word salad takes on harmless topics

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Just make him a deal at his trial that he can never run for office again, but he gets his Twitter back. There's a good chance he takes it up.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          For the sake of unity, I propose a lottery to determine the person who pulls the cord on the gui-better, and will let them make the decision.

        • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          A communist revolution rehabbing him and his new self just makes funny comments, hates on conservatism and writes wacky poetry would be possibly the best outcome.

    • Sons_of_Ferrix
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      7 months ago

      The orange man is in fact, bad. cheeto-man

      The ice cream guy is also bad tho dem

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I wonder who would be more destructive for Ukraine now. Trump would probably still try to "make a deal" that amounts to a Treaty of Versailles situation for Ukraine. Most if not all the Russian demands, Ukrainian demilitarisation and maybe partial integration with Europe without any territorial recapture or NATO membership. I don't see him fighting the war to the last Ukrainian though because he hates losers. He's been outspokenly vicious toward wounded/imprisoned/dead American soldiers and they're sanctified to his base. The state of the war is so bad 9 months before he'd be taking office that Ukraine has no heroic propaganda image for him to latch onto.

    Biden on the other hand is just pure blood for the blood god. For his entire career, toward any vulnerable group, at any opportunity he was given to hurt someone. Gaza shows how feral he is and how little human life means to him. I think he'll ride the war out all the way to FABs raining down on Kiev. The full effects of the new conscription law will be realised, each new round of aid will sell off more of whatever Russia doesn't take, and in the end there will still be a Treaty of Versailles for Ukraine. Maybe he'd do a post-WW2 Canada and allow all the Ukrainian Nazis to be American refugees, something I don't see Trump doing because they're losers. If Trump tried, I could see liberals suddenly remembering what all the patches on the soldiers' vests mean and reverting to their pre-2022 stance on the Ukrainian military.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Biden on the other hand is just pure blood for the blood god.

      I'm 50-50 on if Biden would run Ukraine fully into the ground or if, with no third election to win, he'd wash his hands of the situation.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        That's where I think both ultimately end more or less the same way. The war is on life support and they both have to pull the plug. I think Biden will face more pressure to maintain the war from his party because he's built this up as the Good War. If NAFO ghouls didn't have this, they'd only be supporting the country that's committing genocide against starving children and provoking WW3. He personally has terrible instincts and remains fanatically attached to things until they're completely outside of the Overton window. Materially the war can't be sustained though, so I see maybe a few months' difference between the two ending it.

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Trump slapped sanction after sanction on Russian Federation.

      His foreign policy will be the same as last time: pro-fascist Ukraine.

      He was the first one to send huge aid packages and arms to Ukraine.

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    all it would take is somebody close to trump telling him that burisma was involved in paying the crocus hall terrorists and he'd be back on his hunter biden ukraine corruption tip

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    7 months ago

    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-anti-imperialist/ somewhat libbed up but still fairly good article tabulating Trump's imperialism

    That’s because the battle between Trump and the Establishment was not actually between anti-imperialism and imperialism. Rather it was a contest between two rival forms of imperialism. Trump wanted raw imperial plunder—as practiced in its classic form by European nations during the 19th and early 20th century, and by the United States in its relationship with Central and South America. This is an imperialism of naked territorial conquest, resource plunder, and alliances with local comprador autocrats.

    The Joint Chiefs of Staff—like the larger American Establishment—has little appetite for this naked policy of looting in the name of enrichment. Rather, in a manner that goes back to the creation of the national security state under Harry Truman and Dean Acheson at the dawn of the Cold War in the late 1940s, the Establishment prefers that American global hegemony wear the decent drapery of internationalism and institutionalism. Instead of selfish appeals to “America First,” global hegemony is secured by claiming the form of support for an international liberal order—one maintained by alliances like NATO and SEATO as well as through agreements like NAFTA. This is imperialism in the name of international law, human rights, and free trade.

    The linked Vox article, while substantially more libbed up, is also worth reading https://www.vox.com/23677654/trump-foreign-policy-revisionist-history-dove-anti-imperial

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Yep, Trump's not a better choice, just a choice between two bourgeois.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    sitting at the lathe right now: he gets elected and takes all the money that's going to israel and funnels it into Ukraine, but in truth it's all distributed to shell corporations and embezzled through Deutsche Bank

  • Sons_of_Ferrix
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    7 months ago

    Liberals must weight their hatred for Trump against their hatred for Putin.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    Ukraine "surviving" can mean a lot of things.