https://nitter.net/SawyerMerritt/status/1592232095434567680?t=lJtIoRSsTcAIKiJTreFXnA&s=19

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Hot take, companies that produce cars shouldn’t be allowed to make anything for drinking alcohol.

    I guess the question is “does Tesla produce cars” though

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Lower the seat, raise the handlebars, and it looks like a normal bike to me. Both look adjustable, so I don't see the problem. What am I missing?

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Looks are subjective but this just looks terrible. The modern slope style road bike geometry is bad enough as it is, but it becomes abhorrent if you throw flat bars on there.

          Furthering that, having a slope style frame geometry and lightweight wheels with a flatbar makes 0 fucking sense. It's like stancing a minivan, i.e. it's funny if done for a joke, but not at a porsche price point.

          Why the fuck does their profile picture have a fork stem that's not cut to size?

          I haven't ridden one, obviously, but the roadbike geometry with the MTB sized handlebar stem is probably going to make this handle like shit.

          And then who the fuck is this for? It can't be cyclists, they'd buy actually good bikes for the money. Which leaves you at porsche enthusiasts who don't know better and they're going to ruin their cranks trying to put the pedals on, complain about their ass hurting due to the seat with 0 cushioning and taco the rims at the first opportunity because these are not made to take abuse with that low of a spoke count.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago

            I haven’t ridden one, obviously, but the roadbike geometry with the MTB sized handlebar stem is probably going to make this handle like shit.

            Fair enough. The frame looked a bit weird, but I assumed that was incidental to the performance.

            And then who the fuck is this for? It can’t be cyclists, they’d buy actually good bikes for the money.

            Idk, man. Not everyone has a PhD in Bike. I had a friend who flew in from oot and wanted to come biking with us over the weekend. He had the bright idea of picking up an $89 bike from Walmart. It literally disintegrated underneath him while he was riding up a hill. Looked like your standard triangle frame mountain bike at first glance, but everything from the brakes to the grips on the handlebars just blorped after a few hours of use. Dude got a whip-cut from where one of the brake lines snapped.

            I've seen a lot worse bikes than this and they were deceptive enough at first glance to get a relatively intelligent, educated individual to fork over good money for the privilege of riding it.

            • 7bicycles [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I do think the Walmart bikes deserve to be more regulated because that tiny sticker somewhere that says "not an actual mtb lmao" is just bullshit.

              But like that's the other extreme. This travesty costs anywhere between 2500€ and 5000€ depending on the vendor. If you don't have a PhD in bikes, I think both "don't buy the cheapest possible thing at walmart" and "don't buy a 2500€ and up" bicycle would both seem pretty common sense. You don't need to be a car guy to know that if you just want a getting around vehicle both the clapped out Trabant and the lamborghini are probably bad choices

              • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                2 years ago

                This travesty costs anywhere between 2500€ and 5000€ depending on the vendor.

                Oh ffs. My wife's RadRunner cost $1800 and that thing peddles itself. Also, incidentally, much more in line with the Dutch Grandma-Bike style.

                If you don’t have a PhD in bikes, I think both “don’t buy the cheapest possible thing at walmart” and “don’t buy a 2500€ and up” bicycle would both seem pretty common sense.

                In retrospect, sure. But marketing can do a lot of heavy lifting and people routinely have more money than sense. Just showing a picture of a mountain bike with the handle bars and seat in a miserable position doesn't scream "awful" to me.

                You don’t need to be a car guy to know that if you just want a getting around vehicle both the clapped out Trabant and the lamborghini are probably bad choices

                At the same time, without the price tag attached there's nothing remarkable enough about a picture of a Ford Taurus that would scream its a terrible car.

                • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Oh ffs. My wife’s RadRunner cost $1800 and that thing peddles itself.

                  Yeah it's also an E-Bike

                  At the same time, without the price tag attached there’s nothing remarkable enough about a picture of a Ford Taurus that would scream its a terrible car.

                  I figured the Porsche branding implied the price tag

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago

            ???

            Mountain bikes are perfectly functional. Its just not a Dutch-style street bike.

            • President_Obama [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I mean that it's not what one would prefer to use for transportation on a regular basis, compared to other styles of bicycles. OP may have had a different complaint about the design.

            • john_browns_beard [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah that's just a cruiser bike, commonly known as a beach cruiser in the US. Part of the reason you don't see them around non-beach towns very often is that we have awful bike infrastructure so it's advisable to have some kind of suspension and larger tires to negate potholes, curbs, etc., and the lack of gearing and upright seating position makes cruiser bikes both slow and terrible at climbing hills. There is no way to generate any kind of torque sitting like that and they only work properly on completely flat landscapes, like beach towns or the Netherlands. If you hit a 5% grade on one of those you're going to be walking it up.