Rojava is the only one that really controls their region and even then they got assistance from the US and sold their oil to them. The EZLN is allowed to exist by the government much like Christiania and Exarcheia in Athens. When the government gets tired of stuff like that they will just crush them.
I guess I just don't see the point in autonomy projects. I want liberation for all people and that means confronting power rather than negotiating with it.
You can negotiate while still working towards a wider goal.
The reason autonomous zones aren’t crushed immediately is that the perceived cost of doing so is higher than the alternative. The alternative being, a bloody affair in the papers that has potential to cause wider unrest.
Revolutionaries can take advantage of that, to create a space for organising a wider project.
Autonomous zones have existed for decades and they haven't really done shit on a broader scale. In reality they just become a cool place for people to smoke weed, or in the case of Chiapas, grow overpriced coffee.
Lmao imagine comparing the USSR to fucking Freetown Christiania. Every single one of these autonomous zones except Rojava is nothing more than a neighborhood. Rojava only exists because the PKK (who were MLs for a very long time) has been organizing a vanguard and army for decades, and they received "assistance" from the US to establish a friendly zone within Syria.
They "control" more territory than the white anarchist zones but their "autonomy" is still conditional and they still rely on the Mexican state to a degree. It's not really a sustainable or scalable method of liberation
The Soviet Union want just allowed to exist by a larger capitalist state lol. They were a country, they had complete control and their existence wasn't conditional. For groups like the Zapatistas, their existence is a privilege which can be revoked at any time by the broader state, and the second that crushing them is worth it to the state they will do it.
Damn, you got me. An industrialized nation that created the modern world though the threat of an alternative to capitalism was pointless because it caved after 70 years of space exploration and free housing. Oh fuck all those countries that it assisted in their revolutions just became Walmart parking lots. Cuba is actually capitalist and exists because they sell free trade coffee to California liberals.
Rojava is the only one that really controls their region and even then they got assistance from the US and sold their oil to them. The EZLN is allowed to exist by the government much like Christiania and Exarcheia in Athens. When the government gets tired of stuff like that they will just crush them.
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I tend to think that revolution actually is possible
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I guess I just don't see the point in autonomy projects. I want liberation for all people and that means confronting power rather than negotiating with it.
You can negotiate while still working towards a wider goal.
The reason autonomous zones aren’t crushed immediately is that the perceived cost of doing so is higher than the alternative. The alternative being, a bloody affair in the papers that has potential to cause wider unrest.
Revolutionaries can take advantage of that, to create a space for organising a wider project.
A ceasefire isn’t the same as a capitulation.
Autonomous zones have existed for decades and they haven't really done shit on a broader scale. In reality they just become a cool place for people to smoke weed, or in the case of Chiapas, grow overpriced coffee.
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Lmao imagine comparing the USSR to fucking Freetown Christiania. Every single one of these autonomous zones except Rojava is nothing more than a neighborhood. Rojava only exists because the PKK (who were MLs for a very long time) has been organizing a vanguard and army for decades, and they received "assistance" from the US to establish a friendly zone within Syria.
Don’t the Zapatistas control like half of Chiapas?
They "control" more territory than the white anarchist zones but their "autonomy" is still conditional and they still rely on the Mexican state to a degree. It's not really a sustainable or scalable method of liberation
tbh, that's fine, I don't think it necessarily needs to be.
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So hostile to someone just pointing out the facts bro
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The Soviet Union want just allowed to exist by a larger capitalist state lol. They were a country, they had complete control and their existence wasn't conditional. For groups like the Zapatistas, their existence is a privilege which can be revoked at any time by the broader state, and the second that crushing them is worth it to the state they will do it.
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Damn, you got me. An industrialized nation that created the modern world though the threat of an alternative to capitalism was pointless because it caved after 70 years of space exploration and free housing. Oh fuck all those countries that it assisted in their revolutions just became Walmart parking lots. Cuba is actually capitalist and exists because they sell free trade coffee to California liberals.