Well, the non-voting masses are operating on the same line of thinking. Whether we want it or not, they will keep operating in that way, as long as the establishing remains the same. Yes, having everyone vote for the lesser evil would improve conditions somewhat, but that is idealistic wishing. People don't operate according to the most morally positive action, they act according to the conditions they live in.
And so the discussion that should be had is why so much of the American population ( or in any liberal democratic country ) continues behaves that way, and what would be an effective way to channel that apathy into a new kind of energy.
Personally I think the democratic party needs to fail before any sort of progressive party, let alone leftist party can form. They have shown that they won't stop reaching right so I basically look at this as a long or short term benefit choice.
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Yes, having everyone vote for the lesser evil would improve conditions somewhat, but that is idealistic wishing.
While a little nitpicky, I think it is important to make the distinction that the Democrats have never shown any interest in improving conditions and will only (slightly) slow their decay. They will never deliver on the sort of change that is large enough to be meaningful
And 100% of that 1% were hexbear users!!! You know it's true!!! When in doubt, blame the socialists!!!! :so-true:
It’s only a certain segment of online socialists who advocate for “both sides are equally bad” and that we shouldn’t vote for either of them.
And as we all know, online socialists make up for the majority of non-voters.
Non-voters certainly do not represent the average alienated working-class voter.
This is a materialist take. :very-intelligent:
I’m not gonna go dunk on average prole workers for not voting for Dems. I get them not voting because of time, energy or just lack of faith.
What I can’t stand is people who say “not voting” is actually the correct stance to take!!!
Well, the non-voting masses are operating on the same line of thinking. Whether we want it or not, they will keep operating in that way, as long as the establishing remains the same. Yes, having everyone vote for the lesser evil would improve conditions somewhat, but that is idealistic wishing. People don't operate according to the most morally positive action, they act according to the conditions they live in.
And so the discussion that should be had is why so much of the American population ( or in any liberal democratic country ) continues behaves that way, and what would be an effective way to channel that apathy into a new kind of energy.
Personally I think the democratic party needs to fail before any sort of progressive party, let alone leftist party can form. They have shown that they won't stop reaching right so I basically look at this as a long or short term benefit choice.
Also in regards to
While a little nitpicky, I think it is important to make the distinction that the Democrats have never shown any interest in improving conditions and will only (slightly) slow their decay. They will never deliver on the sort of change that is large enough to be meaningful
The difference between slightly slowing decay and even slow improvement is such an important one
Good point.
why should leftists have faith in the Democrats