I tried to watch The Irishman a few months back. I love Scorsese's mob movies so I figured I'd love this one too. But the de-aging just didn't work. I had no idea how old the characters were supposed to be in any given scene. There's a few times when Pesci's character calls De Niro's character a kid, and at my most charitable both men looked to be a hard-lived 45.
I can't believe this'll turn out any better. After the trainwreck that is Crystal Skull they should have allowed the franchise to die. Or, better yet, never make Crystal Skull and end the franchise on the high note that is Last Crusade. If they have to make an Indiana Jones 5 and don't want to recast the character (and, imo they shouldn't. Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones just as much as he is Han Solo. Recasting Han in Solo didn't work, could never have worked, because there is but one Harrison Ford and he is an old man) then they should simply write a movie around the fact that Ford is a very very old man and there's nothing you can do about that. Indeed, such a limitation might prove creatively stimulating, maybe take the franchise to entirely new waters, asking artistically meaningful questions. Yeah, right, as if the creative geniuses they have to make Indiana Jones 5 would dare to do anything even slightly as risky as trying to make something meaningful. I bet the latest Halloween movie has more substance than whatever Lucasfilm churns out here.
Gotta disagree with you, I think Solo was pretty convincing and that recasting actors in general is fine and they should do it more instead of pushing these eighty year olds to keep playing roles from their twenties and thirties. Solo flopped because it released less than a year after the much-reviled Last Jedi when enthusiasm for Star Wars was in the pits.
Looking back the number one complaint about The Force Awakens was that it was a rehash of A New Hope, so I think for Rian Johnson "subverting expectations" made sense at the time. Unfortunately for him adult children don't actually want a movie that challenges them, they want a movie that shows them things they've already seen before in slightly different contexts.
After the trainwreck that is Crystal Skull they should have allowed the franchise to die. Or, better yet, never make Crystal Skull and end the franchise on the high note that is Last Crusade.
I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with turning Indiana Jones into an American James Bond. Substitute Ford for another younger actor and have him go on a functionally independent adventure every few years.
The theme of the narrative - adventurous modern academic plumbs international conspiracy to discover ancient magic - can and has been done successfully across numerous franchises. Everything from The Mummy to National Treasure could easily have been written as an Indiana Jones movie.
But the need to keep dragging out these old fossil actors is baffling. There's no shortage of young talent and no reason to spend a fortune on post edit making old people look young again.
de-aging cgi cant hide that someone moves like a 76 year old. They should have done what Once Upon A Time In New York, Back to the Future, and Prometheus did: put young actors in old age make up.
I disagree with the notion that Harrison Ford needs to play Indiana Jones. Ford was imitating adventure serial Guys from the 30s and 40s and if you've seen anything like that, he isn't doing anything that different with it. He's a hat and a whip, you could easily get someone.
I tried to watch The Irishman a few months back. I love Scorsese's mob movies so I figured I'd love this one too. But the de-aging just didn't work. I had no idea how old the characters were supposed to be in any given scene. There's a few times when Pesci's character calls De Niro's character a kid, and at my most charitable both men looked to be a hard-lived 45.
I can't believe this'll turn out any better. After the trainwreck that is Crystal Skull they should have allowed the franchise to die. Or, better yet, never make Crystal Skull and end the franchise on the high note that is Last Crusade. If they have to make an Indiana Jones 5 and don't want to recast the character (and, imo they shouldn't. Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones just as much as he is Han Solo. Recasting Han in Solo didn't work, could never have worked, because there is but one Harrison Ford and he is an old man) then they should simply write a movie around the fact that Ford is a very very old man and there's nothing you can do about that. Indeed, such a limitation might prove creatively stimulating, maybe take the franchise to entirely new waters, asking artistically meaningful questions. Yeah, right, as if the creative geniuses they have to make Indiana Jones 5 would dare to do anything even slightly as risky as trying to make something meaningful. I bet the latest Halloween movie has more substance than whatever Lucasfilm churns out here.
Gotta disagree with you, I think Solo was pretty convincing and that recasting actors in general is fine and they should do it more instead of pushing these eighty year olds to keep playing roles from their twenties and thirties. Solo flopped because it released less than a year after the much-reviled Last Jedi when enthusiasm for Star Wars was in the pits.
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lmao I actually kinda like TLJ but that doesn't mean I'm blind to how it was recieved
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Looking back the number one complaint about The Force Awakens was that it was a rehash of A New Hope, so I think for Rian Johnson "subverting expectations" made sense at the time. Unfortunately for him adult children don't actually want a movie that challenges them, they want a movie that shows them things they've already seen before in slightly different contexts.
I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with turning Indiana Jones into an American James Bond. Substitute Ford for another younger actor and have him go on a functionally independent adventure every few years.
The theme of the narrative - adventurous modern academic plumbs international conspiracy to discover ancient magic - can and has been done successfully across numerous franchises. Everything from The Mummy to National Treasure could easily have been written as an Indiana Jones movie.
But the need to keep dragging out these old fossil actors is baffling. There's no shortage of young talent and no reason to spend a fortune on post edit making old people look young again.
de-aging cgi cant hide that someone moves like a 76 year old. They should have done what Once Upon A Time In New York, Back to the Future, and Prometheus did: put young actors in old age make up.
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I disagree with the notion that Harrison Ford needs to play Indiana Jones. Ford was imitating adventure serial Guys from the 30s and 40s and if you've seen anything like that, he isn't doing anything that different with it. He's a hat and a whip, you could easily get someone.