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Remember guys, the ruling class will always paint struggles for change in the worst possible light and call them evil or authoritarian. Now let me tell you about how bad China is...
The only good part of that movie was T'Challa's arc, which is legitimately compelling. Everything else was poorly adapted nonsense compared to the source material. The "civil war" is a zero-stakes boxing match in an airport lmao
Yeah, but I don't think they could have adapted the comic ending where the Pro-Registration and Anti-Registration sides fight in the middle of Manhattan causing untold amounts of property damage
Captain America gets Iron Man on the ropes and is about to finish him off when a group of policemen, firefighters and EMT's run up and tackle him "Being all like, no don't kill Iron Man, he's a real hero like us!"
Captain America looks around at the destruction and is all like "Well shit, this isn't what I wanted" and gives up
Then on the way to his trial, Crossbones gives Cap the ol' Jack Ruby treatment, but then it turned out that Crossbones was a distraction and the Red Skull had hypnotized Sharon Carter to kill Cap instead
Comics!
I don't disagree with your larger point, but let's not pretend the comic arc was anything even remotely good to begin with. Tony Stark started off as an egotistical billionaire arms dealer and that arc still managed to character assassinate him by being just cartoonishly fash (well, beyond the baseline background fashiness of course).
I haven't actually read the comic (or any comics really) so I'll take your word for it :stuff:
At the end, Captain America has a speech where he's like "listen, I know we disagree and I'm sorry my best friend killed your dad, but give me a call when the status quo is threatened and I'll be there"
And even though the oversight team wins there isn't a single scene where the UN influences the Avengers at all, Thanos shows up then the avengers do whatever they want to stop him
It was even more funny because in the context of the Treat Cinematic Universe, Captain America actually did have some decent reasons to be hesitant about it (which is to say a significant amount of government bodies recently having a literal decades long SuperNazi infiltration) but instead the reasons he gave in his argument were...
'Actually me and my friends are all morally infallible even when we destroy things and maybe kill civilians on accident so how dare you say we should be accountable to anyone but ourselves.'
okay dude
At least in the comics there was the element of conflict added that they had to give up their secret identities
They also had to undergo actual training in regards to their powers and tactics
Because a group of young, untrained heroes tried to fight a man who's power is literally "A suicide bomber who doesn't die from exploding" next to an elementary school and then got themselves and 300 kids exploded
Depends what you were reading, because the editors coordinated nothing.
Yeah, I remember the whole "We made clones of the kid we accidentally killed in the training camp" thing
Also the whole "Yeah, we brought back Slapstick as a manic little monster, what are you gonna do about it?" thing
Would have been interesting if they expanded on the whole 50 States Initiative thing where every state got a superhero team, but we can't expect comic book writers to run with a good idea every time can we?
Great Man Theory is fundamentally opposed to centralized planning :surprised-pika:
Hi Bruce, how is Gotham doing? How is income inequality, homelessness, rent control, corruption, and mental health of the population? Would be nice if someone had the privilege to fix those huh?
Nah, wot if I put on a mask, bulletproof vest, ride on a tank and beat on those poor people with mental health problems. But I don't kill them, woe is me, muh morals
This is precisely why I hate all the recent Batman movies
He's just this raging crybaby beating people to hell and back because he's sad
At least the Batman: The Animated Series showed him doing actual charity work and helping people, while also whaling on the Joker and other costumed ne'er-do-wells
I feel like The Batman was trying to do something with this
Batman is constantly getting confused as to why someone would call him a "rich privileged asshole" or why bad guys would look up to him, and there's an AOC-esque politician who tells him he should donate to charity like his dad did
The rich, emo vigilante barely stops any crime but his failures make his vigilantism even more necessary as the city falls into chaos
Idk how much of it is intentional, but I really enjoyed seeing a batman who sucks at his job and fails to preserve the status quo
I remember watching it and thinking that Bats sure had some Rittenhouse energy in some of the early scenes.
That was a feature of the most recent Batman movie as well. The Wayne family donated lots of money but that does not solve capitalism so it never actually fixes anything.
Even though I was familiar with this take, this is laid out very nicely. Posting just to make it easier for me to find later...
I love how this vid touched on how most of the "villians" in these stories have great ideas before just suddenly deciding to murder random people/do a genocide
That has to be the most nefarious part about these kinds of films
