I want to say yes but everything else tells me no

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    hexbear
    72
    2 months ago

    The Kent State shooting was very popular at the time. It's only in retrospect that America decided to be horrified about it.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      67
      2 months ago

      Yeah, the entirety of the US war on Vietnam has gotten memory holed into being this big, unpopular mistake when the truth was that it was fairly popular at first

      Lots of volunteers, lots of pro-war sentiment

      Took the war dragging on for several years for opinion to start changing, but the two big nails in the coffin were the Tet Offensive and the release of the Pentagon Papers

      The combination of the supposedly defeated North Vietnamese striking back with a vengeance and the public finding out that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a farce was what finally broke the majority of public support

      Atrocities like the My Lai Massacre and Tiger Force didn't do much to get people turned off, and neither did the Kent State shooting

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        55
        2 months ago

        It's just like how Afghanistan is considered now, apparently all the libs are now against it from the start.

        America's propaganda machine is ridiculously powerful.

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      37
      2 months ago

      Yeah my grandparents still talk nostalgically about the good old days when the government knew how to deal with communists. How unfair everyone was to Nixon.

      yea

      • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
        hexbear
        7
        2 months ago

        I remember some of my earliest political arguments online discussing the subject of don't ask don't tell and pushing back against the notion that it should have been left to the joint chiefs or some shit. Trying to point out that we have (allegedly) a military beholden to a civilian government back then much like today will get you more than a few "Tell that to the kids at Kent state". There is a very deep sickness that runs through this godforsaken country.

  • @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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    47
    2 months ago

    Yep, they learned that higher tuitions had a chilling effect on protests, and it worked damn well for a long time.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
    hexbear
    38
    2 months ago

    Uh...side-eye-1

    I'm afraid to say anythingside-eye-2

    But seriously, like maybe to an extent. At least in so far as the pigs aren't just going in there to shoot and kill protestors. Doesn't mean they won't brutalize protestors in other ways of course. And I honestly wonder how many Americans even know about Kent State. Even in my relatively good education I think Kent State was mentioned once or twice from elementary school through college.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
    cake
    hexbear
    32
    2 months ago

    No, and when I have funds again (inshallah) I will funnel them all to Maoist insurgency groups in Texas in their quest to the-doohickey Greg Abbott

  • refolde [she/her, any]
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    28
    2 months ago

    They learned that there will never be consequences for anything they do.

  • Skeleton_Erisma [they/them, any]
    hexbear
    27
    2 months ago

    No, they drink 10 o clock news juice and are force fed what and who to get mad at

    You think they cared when protestors got sprayed in the face with bear mace at UC Davis 15 ish years ago?

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    22
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    The fact that veterans get the GI Bill is enough proof that 'no, we did not'. Those dudes shouldn't be around any schools.