so basically the series is going to tilt into how the partisans are extremists that need to be dealt with so the moderate faction with Mothma is the right answer because the alliance is based on hope and having the moral high ground
This is actually the most correct he's ever been shown to be. He didn't want to throw in with Kreegyr because Kreegyr was an idiot who was going to get his people killed, and he was exactly right about that. Hell, he talked shit about people who wanted to restore the Republic and he's ultimately shown to be right about that too, given the Sequels
An interesting angle is that Andor says in the movie that he's been fighting the empire since he was 6, and the Andor show runners decided to portray him as a child on a planet devastated by imperial extraction... Except the imperial extraction was long before the Old Republic became the Galactic Empire.
I think they're not going to forget that he's ideologically aligned against the liberal Old Republic almost as much as the Empire.
That's true. Hell, when Maarva takes him, she outright says that the Republic is on its way and they'll kill everyone there.
I'm mostly excited for what this could do for the portrayal of Mon Mothma, given that we know she's ideologically committed to restoring the Republic, and eventually does
And when Clem (andors dad) gets executed for rabble rousing protest policing, is it stormtroopers or clone troopers who do the deed? Does Syril’s childhood bedroom have stormtrooper or clone trooper action figures? The Republic was a type of Empire
Also, Karn's childhood room has a bunch of clone trooper action figures. It's such an interesting detail to specifically say that that little fascist shit grew up idolizing the Republic
Yeah taking into account R1 and the OT it seems like Mothma gets dragged along through the revolution by the more radical wing of her faction, pretty sure she isn't relevant at all in the grand scheme until after the Empire is defeated and she becomes a politician in the New Republic (and fails to stop the First Order from rising lmao).
The New Republic getting wrecked by the fascist breakaway they neglected to deal with is a lovely, unintentional piece of commentary on Liberalism in general.
all that's missing is space operation paperclip, although the oldschool rebellion was hoovering up defectors left and right so maybe that's where wookiee von braun shows up, idk.
The very existence of the OT will always undermine this however, since we know that the "insane" people were right and they won in the end. And the prequels will always be about how the "sane" people failed, and even the sequel trilogy wouldn't have happened had the "sane" people not failed again off-screen.
He mentioned a book by Simon Sebag Montefiore called Young Stalin, chronicling the life of the soon-to-be tyrant leader of Russia. In the first few pages, the author writes about Stalin using a team of 15 to rob the State Bank in Tiflis, Georgia. This was in 1907, in the midst of the Russian Revolution.
Yeah i read the book and lol Stalin is not portrayed in a “good” way
so basically the series is going to tilt into how the partisans are extremists that need to be dealt with so the moderate faction with Mothma is the right answer because the alliance is based on hope and having the moral high ground
Theyre still working with the partisans in rogue one, albeit saw goes wildly insane with some sort of desert mind squid situation
I mean Saw is calling everyone not part of his faction out in andor as feds, libs, splitters, and wreckers. Not that he's wrong though.
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This is actually the most correct he's ever been shown to be. He didn't want to throw in with Kreegyr because Kreegyr was an idiot who was going to get his people killed, and he was exactly right about that. Hell, he talked shit about people who wanted to restore the Republic and he's ultimately shown to be right about that too, given the Sequels
An interesting angle is that Andor says in the movie that he's been fighting the empire since he was 6, and the Andor show runners decided to portray him as a child on a planet devastated by imperial extraction... Except the imperial extraction was long before the Old Republic became the Galactic Empire.
I think they're not going to forget that he's ideologically aligned against the liberal Old Republic almost as much as the Empire.
That's true. Hell, when Maarva takes him, she outright says that the Republic is on its way and they'll kill everyone there.
I'm mostly excited for what this could do for the portrayal of Mon Mothma, given that we know she's ideologically committed to restoring the Republic, and eventually does
And when Clem (andors dad) gets executed for
rabble rousingprotest policing, is it stormtroopers or clone troopers who do the deed? Does Syril’s childhood bedroom have stormtrooper or clone trooper action figures? The Republic was a type of EmpireAlso, Karn's childhood room has a bunch of clone trooper action figures. It's such an interesting detail to specifically say that that little fascist shit grew up idolizing the Republic
I literally just added that comrade, great minds
It's Clone Troopers but right after Order 66 aka the establishing of the empire. The very early days basically.
This. In fact the rally is pro=Republic. You hear one of the guys who gets shot yell "long live the Republic"
Yeah taking into account R1 and the OT it seems like Mothma gets dragged along through the revolution by the more radical wing of her faction, pretty sure she isn't relevant at all in the grand scheme until after the Empire is defeated and she becomes a politician in the New Republic (and fails to stop the First Order from rising lmao).
The New Republic getting wrecked by the fascist breakaway they neglected to deal with is a lovely, unintentional piece of commentary on Liberalism in general.
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all that's missing is space operation paperclip, although the oldschool rebellion was hoovering up defectors left and right so maybe that's where wookiee von braun shows up, idk.
real post-war italy moment
the big mouse really wants to portrait the people actually doing something for the rebellion as insane people.
The very existence of the OT will always undermine this however, since we know that the "insane" people were right and they won in the end. And the prequels will always be about how the "sane" people failed, and even the sequel trilogy wouldn't have happened had the "sane" people not failed again off-screen.
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Star Wars is almost forced to be based simply because the enemy is the Empire.
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Yeah i read the book and lol Stalin is not portrayed in a “good” way
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one of the chapter:
"The milkman" : was Stalin a Tsarist agent?
it's a decent book, most of the book has a footnote about a person who knew stalin and how some years later they got purged when he was in power
Even more petty than back of house tbh