My sister’s favorite western cartoon is Avatar. She recognizes the themes of war, racism, and colonialism.

My brother’s favorite movie is Avatar (James Cameron)

They’re both racist conservatives lol. My brother is even a Reaganite even though he never lived through his presidency. ( I feel like it’s one thing to be a fan of historical figures you’ve never lived under like :lenin-sure: but Reagan is a modern figure lol).

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    over 10 years ago i was having this casual conversation with a colleague while doing a manual labor type of project, and we were talking about remote places, historical peoples/cultures with knowledge out there to rediscover. not like "mayans had cell phones" type of shit, but like Traditional Ecological Knowledge, ethnobotanical wisdom, and conceptual cosmologies. i think i was hot off a 1491 read.

    anyway, the supervisor (a very confident, blonde-haired, blue-eyed moron) comes over to interject themselves into the conversation and tells us that there's nothing left for anyone to find anywhere on earth from other people that came before.

      • booty [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        hell yeah, i knew i had a good feeling about park rangers for a reason

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        man in the high castle except yellowstone is the capital

        yogi bear and his antagonism with the park ranger is secret American rebel propaganda to fight against the national park samurai menace

    • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      over 10 years ago i was having this casual conversation with a colleague while doing a manual labor type of project, and we were talking about remote places, historical peoples/cultures with knowledge out there to rediscover. not like “mayans had cell phones” type of shit, but like Traditional Ecological Knowledge, ethnobotanical wisdom, and conceptual cosmologies.

      A lot of people don't know what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidences and things. They don't realize that there's this like lattice of coincidence that layers on top of everything. Give you an example, I'll show you what I mean. Suppose you thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly somebody will say like plate or shrimp or plate of shrimp out of the blue no explanation. No point for looking for one either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

      I'll give you another instance. You know the way everybody's into weirdness right now. Blogs on all the websites about Bermuda triangles, UFOs, how the Mayans invented television. That kind of thing. Well the way I see it it's exactly the same. There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics. They miss out on seeing the whole thing.

      Take South America for example. In South America thousands of people go missing every year. Nobody knows where they go. They just like disappear. But if you think about it for a minute. You realize something. There had tobe a time when there were no people. Right? Well where did all these people come from? Humh? I'll tell you where. The future. Where did all these people disappear to? Humh? The past! And how'd they get there?

      That's right. Flying saucers. Which are actually? You guessed it, time machines.

      I think a lot about this kind of stuff. I do my best thinking on the bus. That's how come I don't drive, see.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      A person I know is adamant that there have been civilizations at the level of modern technology and organization multiple times. As in, there have been multiple rises and falls where people fell back into a paleolithic state. He's made specific claims like iron veins in mountains are the remnants of ancient skyscrapers, and that Earth's ambient background radiation is evidence of ancient nuclear bombs. He claims that most things humans produce would leave no evidence after a few hundred thousand years, which is true to an extent but I don't think his claims hold water.

      What that what your supervisor was claiming?

      I don't know enough about archaeology or anything to dispute what my coworker was saying, but it doesn't seem right. If there were ancient highly advanced societies it seems like they would have left shit all over the place we could have found by now.

      • DialecticalShaman [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        A few hundred thousand years humans hadn't left africa, a few more and there aren't any modern humans at all. That doesn't leave a lot of room for these civs in the historical record.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, that's what I tried telling him. Modern humans didn't leave Africa until 60,000 to 90,000 years ago and that's well established in the fossil record. Earlier types of humans had left Africa, like homo erectus had a range all the way from Europe to Indonesia about 2 million years ago. Neanderthals were in central Asia 400,000 years ago. So this guy would have to believe ancient technological civilizations were built by earlier types of humans, or these ancient civilizations weren't human at all. He might be confused about the time frame of human evolution.

          • DialecticalShaman [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            He might be confused about the time frame of human evolution.

            In my experience this is the case for a huge amount of people.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I always wonder how advanced a civilization that predate humans would have to be before we can have definite evidence that they existed. Presumably, a hunter-and-gatherer dinosaur civilization would leave almost no surviving trace after 65 million years. But what about a bronze age dinosaur civilization or an iron age dinosaur civilization? Maybe there's some advanced therapsid civilization that didn't survive the Permian–Triassic extinction and we have almost no traces of this society because not many things are build to last 250 million years.