My sister’s favorite western cartoon is Avatar. She recognizes the themes of war, racism, and colonialism.

My brother’s favorite movie is Avatar (James Cameron)

They’re both racist conservatives lol. My brother is even a Reaganite even though he never lived through his presidency. ( I feel like it’s one thing to be a fan of historical figures you’ve never lived under like :lenin-sure: but Reagan is a modern figure lol).

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      She was just like “yeah, okay I guess a few are left"

      just assuming every Chinese person you have never personally seen is actually fake and was murdered by the CCP.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          It's "too good" because they're insulated from anything which would disprove it. As material conditions in the USA get worse, it'll be evolve-or-die.

            • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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              I once showed a goofball colleague a youtube video of an Indonesian guy on vacation in the DPRK. It was footage of some streets in Pyongyang. My colleague was claiming the DPRK is basically a wasteland with people starving everywhere, basically living in the middle ages technologically. He said they've probably never even seen a car before.

              So I show him this footage of a street in Pyongyang, and it looks like a lot of places in Asia. People walking around, buildings, bikes, cars, just normal life. A van comes into frame with a DHL logo and he says "Oh, there. Right there. There's the fake." I ask him what he means and he says, "I've been looking for where the video is faked. That van is CGI. I can tell. This whole video is shot on greenscreen, probably by communists in China to make North Korea look good."

              I showed him that the company DHL on their website lists the DPRK as one of the countries they do business and he still doesn't believe it. Just absolute lead brained stubbornness at this point.

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                  It seems like they used to deliver to the DPRK, because they're removed from the DHL site now. I'm guessing they had to pull out because of covid restrictions, but DHL's been there since 1997.

                  I can't find the exact video, but this one is pretty similar to what I remember. Also, I'm so jealous at how clean Pyongyang is. No billboards, no advertisements, no McDonald's or KFC everywhere, everything's pleasant and there are wide paths for bikes or walking. If this were an American city, that whole street would be littered with drive-through fast food or a wal-mart or something else horrible. All the imperialist nations should feel ashamed for how they treat the DPRK.

            • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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              They just don’t seek it out.

              It's only freaks like us who do actively seek that sort of stuff out.

            • SaniFlush [any, any]
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              That's what I'm saying, it doesn't matter what people tell them because they haven't had to live it.

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  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    over 10 years ago i was having this casual conversation with a colleague while doing a manual labor type of project, and we were talking about remote places, historical peoples/cultures with knowledge out there to rediscover. not like "mayans had cell phones" type of shit, but like Traditional Ecological Knowledge, ethnobotanical wisdom, and conceptual cosmologies. i think i was hot off a 1491 read.

    anyway, the supervisor (a very confident, blonde-haired, blue-eyed moron) comes over to interject themselves into the conversation and tells us that there's nothing left for anyone to find anywhere on earth from other people that came before.

      • booty [he/him]
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        hell yeah, i knew i had a good feeling about park rangers for a reason

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        man in the high castle except yellowstone is the capital

        yogi bear and his antagonism with the park ranger is secret American rebel propaganda to fight against the national park samurai menace

    • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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      over 10 years ago i was having this casual conversation with a colleague while doing a manual labor type of project, and we were talking about remote places, historical peoples/cultures with knowledge out there to rediscover. not like “mayans had cell phones” type of shit, but like Traditional Ecological Knowledge, ethnobotanical wisdom, and conceptual cosmologies.

      A lot of people don't know what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidences and things. They don't realize that there's this like lattice of coincidence that layers on top of everything. Give you an example, I'll show you what I mean. Suppose you thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly somebody will say like plate or shrimp or plate of shrimp out of the blue no explanation. No point for looking for one either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

      I'll give you another instance. You know the way everybody's into weirdness right now. Blogs on all the websites about Bermuda triangles, UFOs, how the Mayans invented television. That kind of thing. Well the way I see it it's exactly the same. There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics. They miss out on seeing the whole thing.

      Take South America for example. In South America thousands of people go missing every year. Nobody knows where they go. They just like disappear. But if you think about it for a minute. You realize something. There had tobe a time when there were no people. Right? Well where did all these people come from? Humh? I'll tell you where. The future. Where did all these people disappear to? Humh? The past! And how'd they get there?

      That's right. Flying saucers. Which are actually? You guessed it, time machines.

      I think a lot about this kind of stuff. I do my best thinking on the bus. That's how come I don't drive, see.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      A person I know is adamant that there have been civilizations at the level of modern technology and organization multiple times. As in, there have been multiple rises and falls where people fell back into a paleolithic state. He's made specific claims like iron veins in mountains are the remnants of ancient skyscrapers, and that Earth's ambient background radiation is evidence of ancient nuclear bombs. He claims that most things humans produce would leave no evidence after a few hundred thousand years, which is true to an extent but I don't think his claims hold water.

      What that what your supervisor was claiming?

      I don't know enough about archaeology or anything to dispute what my coworker was saying, but it doesn't seem right. If there were ancient highly advanced societies it seems like they would have left shit all over the place we could have found by now.

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        A few hundred thousand years humans hadn't left africa, a few more and there aren't any modern humans at all. That doesn't leave a lot of room for these civs in the historical record.

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          Yeah, that's what I tried telling him. Modern humans didn't leave Africa until 60,000 to 90,000 years ago and that's well established in the fossil record. Earlier types of humans had left Africa, like homo erectus had a range all the way from Europe to Indonesia about 2 million years ago. Neanderthals were in central Asia 400,000 years ago. So this guy would have to believe ancient technological civilizations were built by earlier types of humans, or these ancient civilizations weren't human at all. He might be confused about the time frame of human evolution.

          • DialecticalShaman [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            He might be confused about the time frame of human evolution.

            In my experience this is the case for a huge amount of people.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        I always wonder how advanced a civilization that predate humans would have to be before we can have definite evidence that they existed. Presumably, a hunter-and-gatherer dinosaur civilization would leave almost no surviving trace after 65 million years. But what about a bronze age dinosaur civilization or an iron age dinosaur civilization? Maybe there's some advanced therapsid civilization that didn't survive the Permian–Triassic extinction and we have almost no traces of this society because not many things are build to last 250 million years.

  • Parent [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I never realized the cartoon Avatar and the James Cameron Avatar were different franchises until Chapo did a bit on James Cameron a few weeks ago.

    • Praksis2nd [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      people who assumed i was talkin about the movie used to make me irrationally angry

      • knifestealingcrow [any]
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        To be fair there are 5 movies, first one prominently featured flying and being in the air, second one is literally named after water, we just need the third to be about dirt and the fourth to be about fire and we're there

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  • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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    I had a former friend hit me with "Nobody owes you anything in this life!" while they were in the middle of a tirade about how I "wasn't giving [them] the respect and dignity I owed [them]" after I called them out for constantly breaking promises.

    This is an incredibly toxic variety of brain worms that had to be wrenched out of me when I was a teenager. We all owe each other respect and dignity as part of living in and benefiting from a society. I'm tired of this kind of extreme individualism being presented as empowerment. We need each other to survive.

    Obviously, there are some people who don't deserve respect and dignity, but it takes a real lot to accomplish that. And even then, those people aren't beyond redemption while they're still alive.

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  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    I knew someone who supported Azerbaijan in the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia because

    Him: "I don't like Armenians because this Armenian secretary was a complete bitch."

    Context: The Armenian secretary was a coworker at a place he worked at 2 decades ago and he doesn't live anywhere close to the Armenian diaspora for Armenians to have any meaningful impact in his life.

    Me: "Uh, you do know that Azerbaijan is a Muslim country, right?"

    Context: He's also a massive Islamophobe.

    Him: Pregnant pause as the wolf named "Islamophobia" struggles against the wolf named "personal vendetta against some low-paying coworker from 2 decades ago" before the second wolf winning out.

    Him: "Yeah, but she was a complete bitch, so fuck 'em."

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I know someone who's a fusion Buddhist-Catholic anarchist who believes most scientific claims are incorrect and subject to what he calls the "observer effect" where God himself changes reality based on how much a person believes a certain thing. It's apparently the same double slit observer effect from physics, but he says scientists get it wrong. He says this is how anarchism can be achieved, through divine intervention through mass prayer. He also wants most technology and culture rolled back to around 1995 and wants it to stay there.

    Several of my family members claim to be directly descendant from Christ's disciplines with no evidence whatsoever. One of them tried using this claim to get out of paying property taxes in court.

    One of my coworkers believes Marvel movies created scifi, also believes they're very subversive. He'll say things about how he's a conservative and feels uncomfortable watching "anti-American, socialist" movies, but says they're the best films ever made regardless.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      He also wants most technology and culture rolled back to around 1995 and wants it to stay there.

      I guess some people are just that much into skacore.

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          when i say skacore i mean "melodicore with horns", which fortunately is just a subset of 3rd wave. 3rd wave also includes a lot of rocksteady-influenced bands like the Slackers or Hepcat, i don't mind these.

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  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Not believing lived experiences unless they conform to their own lived experience is pretty vanilla, but goddamn sometimes you just get tired of listening to whiteys talking about how racism or discrimination based on literally anything else just doesnt exist. :shrug-outta-hecks:

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      one of my coworkers says black people don't get to complain about slavery, because his white grandfather also picked cotton on a plantation...the plantation that he owned. He's also said things like if people want free tuition to college, they should just get good at golf and get a golf scholarship like he did...through one of his relative's country clubs.

      I don't know how this guy works with me if his family is so rich, btw. It's not a high level position or anything

      • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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        My brother doesnt believe that discrimination exists based on race and sexuality when it comes to jobs. Well he has tattoos (that he can hide if asked to) and didnt talk about being straight so obviously it's just that easy :shrug-outta-hecks: Apparentely owners just don't care what the employee is as long as they do their job.

        Oh and all those cases where a racist fucknut didnt hire someone based on their skin colour? Yeah, can't even imagine that so it's not true. What? You havent personally been discriminated against? Well it just doesnt exist then.

        god i swear sometimes :agony-shivering:

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I've had to walk my coworkers through how at-will employment is effectively hiring/firing discrimination that one can easily hide. It's really difficult in at-will states to prove cases of discrimination outside of direct evidence of slurs being thrown around or written company policy. An employer can fire someone because they say they don't like the worker's personality, but in reality it's because the employer's a bigot. Employers don't have to admit they're racist or transphobic or anything, there's no mechanism to put pressure on employers outside of a union or calling in the (ugh) ACLU.

          Workplaces just have to put up the equal opportunity employer thing in their hiring procedure and that's as effective as a shield they need.

          Except my coworkers just said like, "Yeah, but if everyone figured out that the boss is a racist, no one will work for them." Yes, because nobody in America works for a racist.

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  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    once met a jewish black dude at my reform congregation who kept handing it to Farrakhan in the one political discussion we both participated in

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  • HugeRudeTalkingPenis [he/him,any]
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    I mean the earth kingdom is clearly supposed to be China and the whole theme of Ba Sing Se is like "oh wow this is just like 1984 damn" you can get whatever you want out of it. It's a children's show. Have you considered you were seeing something that wasn't there?