Sorry for the noob question. But considering the awful way that the US is treating the protests, should people push for BDS from Amerika? Like should we advocate that people not travel to the US? Not study in the US? Not collaborate with research with the US. And not buy US products.

This plan is very half baked, so crit me as hard as you want. It just feels like the US government is hopelessly fascist and dangerous for the world.

  • Ocommie63 [she/her]@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    Personally, whenever I hear someone that wants to move or even visit to this hellcountry I strongly advise against it and tell them that there are better places to go.

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Any resistance is good, the ocean is made of an uncountable multitude of drops. But don't expect to see a major shift in our lifetime.

    As an aside, I would counter that the US gov isn't fully fascist. Fascism isn't sustainable for the amount of time the US has been in business. This is a hybrid of more sustainable subjugation of the rest of the world, some kind of neo-liberal-fasco-capitalist. It finds a balance of the contradictions, whereas fascism is blind to the possibility of contradictions and shoots itself in the foot. I feel a though the hegemony of the US is so well established that it might not ever be able to be hijacked. But I could be way off base, predicting the future is a fruitless endeavor.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      As an aside, I would counter that the US gov isn't fully fascist. Fascism isn't sustainable for the amount of time the US has been in business.

      Fair enough. Pls forgive my oversimplification.

      • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        Pls forgive my oversimplification.

        No, there's nothing you need to be forgiven here for. The US government doesn't deserve nuance in our rhetoric. If we're actually analyzing systems and material conditions, we need to, but in day to day life and the effects on the working class it's a distinction with little difference.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    7 months ago

    Definitely. Honestly I think institutions and countries divesting from and sanctioning the US is the only thing outside of global war that will get the Great Satan to knock it off. But even at a smaller level, if people you know are thinking about coming here or working with us, definitely advise against it, it’s not a good idea.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I think a blockade of the USA is inevitable because it seems impossible to invade and then pacify the USA…unless you’re using drone swarms or something. But who knows.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      i have a fan theory that in the Hunger Games the setting is just a fully isolated and blockaded U.S., cut off from a global communist bloc, devouring it's own children in waning capitalistic excess

      so yeah maybe that will still happen

  • plinky [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Impossible and kinda meaningless, best practice is avoidance whenever possiblee. Isntreal country is much better target cause it's unsustainable militarily, financially and agriculturally by itself.

    (even if we somehow were to accomplish isolation of the great satan, usa can exist as an autarky fairly easily, usa has the resources)

  • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]
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    7 months ago

    I don’t know how feasible it would be as a campaign, but the US is pretty much doing it to itself by sanctioning China and Russia and getting on Ansar Allah’s badside. Also they don’t produce much anyway.