• WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I never understood how people in the Purge universe would be just be fine for the rest of the year if they saw their loved ones die violently, is PTSD just not a thing? Surely the blood feuds alone would impact society. I know "A horror movie from 2013 had dumb worldbuilding" is a lukewarm take but still lmao.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      thesis of the movies is straight up "this is bad, look at this bad idea which is bad; crime is constructed & precipitated by the ruling class, who also don't respect democracy" :agony-minion:

        • Circra [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Americans coming out of Star Wars convinced that their lot fucking about with massive carrier fleets and having used actual doomsday weapons to force everyone else to live in terror of them are somehow the rebellion.

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            • FlintstoneSpiceLatte [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I think those type are at least honest about them being the sith, take r/EmpireDidNothingWrong. I am unsure if this is a good or bad thing.

              On the good side, CHUDs trying to "no u" is insufferably annoying, but on the bad side. It also begs the question, are some CHUDs find inspiration from the villains because studios are making villains in media too cool?

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          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            2 years ago

            I've generally interpreted the point as trying to deconstruct and de-glamorize the idea of superheros, the people shown as choosing to become superheroes do so not just out of a sense of justice but also severe personal and emotional problems that they compensate for through taking the role of a vigilante doing self-justified violence to others, mostly against relatively regular criminals or people who also are taking on roles to dodge their personal issues.

            Of course also theres the Comedian who openly indulges in the violence and power granted over others for his own enjoyment and pleasure, and quite naturally just signs up to work for the feds so he can be officially sanctioned to do exactly the same shit but to foreigners and political enemies.

            The ones that do actually have superhuman abilities end up either becoming inhuman and detached or catching the biggest great man theory brain worm and orchestrating global atrocities to achieve a momentary state of confused peace, then getting ben shapiro owned by a single guy going "how long is this gonna last if no more aliens show up lmao" and having a breakdown.

            Theres also like a theme of the importance of everyday kindness and being human and connecting to each other, rather than hiding behind a mask or becoming inhuman supermen, I guess.

          • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Counterpoint: it was worse than the book because it depicts police racism as an anomaly and relic of the past and arguably normalizes eugenics since Ozy's daughter is also a super genius for no reason

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    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I've never seen them but what I've learned through osmosis, the rich hole up in their homes with state of the art security or pay to have poors brought to them to murder and are essentially never at risk.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The Purge 2 also introduces the idea that Purge Night is a cover for an ongoing genocide of the poor. Not enough people were being killed, so the government started sending troops into apartment blocks.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Right, initially when they introduced it almost no one was willing to go murder people for shits and giggles and they had to orchestrate atrocities to get people's bloodlust/terror up.

  • macabrett
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    2 years ago

    What if we put on a lil mask and called ourselves jigsaw and put people through horrific torture devices to get them to appreciate life? do you think that'd improve the world?

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It always scares me whenever people take the wrong lessons from satirical work. Good way to tell on yourself I guess:ohnoes:

    • RoabeArt [he/him]
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      I'm weary of anyone who says they only like the first half of Full Metal Jacket (the boot camp scenes) then turn off the movie after that. It's a surefire way of knowing I encountered someone who missed the whole message of the film and is probably a chud.

      It's the same people who think "Fortunate Son" is a love letter to the US military in spite of the lyrics that clearly lampoon performative patriotism and protest the draft unfairly targeting the working class.

      • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
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        I like the chuds who hear "FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!" and think that song was about not making the bed or whatever.

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          • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Hollywood gives the bad guys cool speeches all the time, then they eat a baby so you learn that people who say that better things are possible are always secretly evil

          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            When I watched a SciFi movie in which the evil people were quite powerful I mentioned to my parents that obviously I would rather be part of the powerful figure, than having to escape all the time, when I was a very young child. The analysis was correct, though I also was like: How about just not letting it come to that in the first place?

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      • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        losers repeat "show don't tell" constantly while not understanding anything they're not told :agony-shivering:

  • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I-

    The movie was about how it was a terrible idea that was enacted by the ruling class for duplicitous reasons, claiming to reduce crime while in fact only functioning as mass pogroms against the poor and particularly the unhoused. I'm probably giving the movie too much credit, but in spite of it being mainly an excuse for fight scenes, I don't remember it giving any suggestion at all that the purge had any positive effect

    I guess the movie might scan differently if you reflexively trust the governmental Explainer clip that introduces the purge, or if you hate poor people

    • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don't really think you're giving the movies too much credit, and I think they really leaned into those themes harder as the series went along to the point of being too on the nose.

      Like, in one of the later movies there's a scene where

      CW Racialised Violence

      They show a black man being beat to death by a bunch of cops in the middle of a baseball field while God Bless America plays in the background

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  • Weedian [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Efficiency and progress is ours once more

    Now that we have the neutron bomb

    It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done

    Away with excess enemy

    But no less value to property

    No sense in war but perfect sense at home

    The sun beams down on a brand new day

    No more welfare tax to pay

    Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light

    Jobless millions whisked away

    At last we have more room to play

    All systems go to kill the poor tonight

    Gonna kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor

    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor

    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Purge films: The ruling class murders the poor by the thousands in a way that is excused because it is "legal"

    Purge audience: Wow it would be so cool if I could shoot my neighbor though

    Purge films: Trying to fix society by playing by its own rules will only lead to those rules being changed to better suit the ruling class.

    Purge audience: Yo but what if we got together and robbed all the banks?

    Purge films: The best hope for lasting change is a heavily armed black-lead militant group.

    Purge audience: I'm sure glad that everyone :vote:d for the nice lady at the end of the film.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The Purge movies are on the surface horror movies about how the wealthy are the true instigators of widespread crime and most of the violence is directed downwards. It's not even subtext. How do people see these movies as up for debate?