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  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I'm glad for that little shoutout to Goblin Slayer there that correctly associates it with fascist ideology and imagery :scared-fash:

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      In 2023 - it’s Harem in the Labrynth in another world or Worlds end harem.

      Possibly Shield Hero.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Possibly Shield Hero.

        In some versions of that incel power fantasy trash, the false rape accuser character is (CW: extreme sexual violence)

        spoiler

        raped to death and dismembered before a cheering crowd and it's presented as poetic justice.

        :agony-4horsemen:

        • Deadend [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I stopped during the first episode.

          It seemed like it could have been okay with the multi-verse.

          But then the false rape accusations followed by slavery, I just couldn’t.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It gets worse. So much worse. And of course the slavery is presented as justified and a good thing that makes the slaves happy as long as the master is mediocre enough to be not too cruel to his slaves.

            Some good stories came from "isekai" concepts (Visions of Escaflowne, and in non-anime/manga, The Neverending Story) but it's being strip mined as a genre into spank bank power fantasies with :freeze-gamer: characteristics over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again now. :pathetic:

            • Deadend [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Ah. Yeah. I’ve met fans of these shows at anime groups.

              There are 2 types -

              The kind who have no media literacy on this because they just like seeing cool fireballs and are somewhere on the spectrum (normally mentioned early on)

              The guys who really like that shit, but they mostly try to talk at cis-women about it and don’t take mild suggestions as topics try and shift. They tend to get banned soon after as a hazard.

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              I miss how the OG isekai involving mainly schoolgirls were just far better because they didn't pander as though their audience were just grungy r@pe gremlins, Miyazaki was right anime was a big fucking mistake

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              This is why you need to be innoculated with The Man Who Came Too Early/Hard To Be A God/Merchant Princes. Western-Style Portal Fantasies have always had flaws of their own (especially the "Guy With Shed implements industrial revolution" subtype which in a couple of examples devolves into a cringe harem fantasy (glares at The Radiant Knight)), but they've generally been better. But now I see Isekai-style tropes infect them too.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        In the year 2040, Reito Mizuhara is a young man who is put into cryostasis while awaiting for a life-saving treatment to be developed in order to cure the rare disease he suffers. Five years later in the year 2045, Reito awakens to discover that, in this period of time, an extremely lethal and contagious virus called the MK (Man Killer) has emerged, which mysteriously affects only males, causing the death of about 99.9% of the world's male population except for approximately one million survivors who were put into cryostasis before being infected. Much to his surprise, Reito also learns that he is one of five men in Japan who somehow developed immunity to the MK Virus and, as a result, is required to participate in a breeding program by impregnating as many women as possible so that their children can replenish the world's population. While Reito investigates the secrets surrounding the MK Virus and the mysterious disappearance of his childhood friend Elisa Tachibana, the series also shows the perspective of the other men who have developed immunity to the MK Virus, each with their own circumstances.[4]

        THIS FUCKING TRASH :agony-4horsemen:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Harem in the Labrynth in another world or Worlds end harem

        These are actual mask-off names for incel slop now. :agony-4horsemen:

        • Deadend [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah. Anime has “advanced “ past Goblin Slayer and into full on jerk off while having a power fantasy shows. That get simulcast in the US streaming. So some poor fuckers scramble to get out subtitles on these shows.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I keep hearing how there's "plenty" of non-cryptofascist incel pandering slop in the industry, but it rarely gets funding, attention, or for that matter reach compared to the cryptofascist incel pandering slop coming out at the same time more and more year after year. :doomer:

            • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              The biggest shows last year were: Demon slayer (plz don't confuse, this one is about 1 good boy empathetically killing rich people allegories), Kaguya-sama: love is war, spyxfamily, Lycoris recoil, chainsaw man, bocchi the rock! and Gundam: Witch from Mercury.

              Chainsaw man and Gundam have heavy leftist themes. Lycoris recoil is gay, and along with demon slayer are heavily action oriented shows. The rest are cute comedies aimed at normal people. Bocchi was a word-of-mouth smash hit, but the rest of these shows had marketing budgets that probably dwarfed the entire production budget of something like World's end harem.

              All the thinly veiled far right isekai stories usually originate from studios desperate to adapt self-published webnovels in the chase for that sweet sweet sword art online money (goblin slayer, shield hero), but they're finding that well to be dry cos those stories only got "popular" because only terminally online Nazi's read them, and the mainstream continues to be dominated by Weekly Shone Jump adaptations because WSJ has editors.

              And even in that web novel space there's push-back-we just had an isekai where the protagonist does the radical action of... Killing slavers and emancipating slaves. (reincarnated as a sword) edit: So I wouldn't get all doomer about anime just yet. Until something like goblin slayer gets into WSJ, things haven't gotten that bad.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I sincerely hope you're right and that the incel-pandering trash is just the equivalent of mobile game trash: a cheap buck for the lazy or the desperate.

                • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Captain of the Anime Defense Force reporting for the daily Anime Struggle Session, ready to testify that the treats are progressive, sir!

                  But seriously, I get how disheartening watching stuff you like inevitably slide right wards under capitalism is, so we gotta take the W's where we can yeah?

                  Edit: Why is there no Felix stolen valor emoji

                • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Yeah I'm not going to go in depth to defend demon slayer (mostly bcoz I don't have time rn haha, nor does it particularly deserve a defense) but the way it frames demonic power as something hoarded and doled out at the whim of the head demon, elevating those psychopathic enough to be useful, struck me as a decent enough allegory of wealth.

                  You got me on Nezuko tho, like I get that the design was probably going for "restrained violence" but it's still yikes.

                    • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      There's an old anime trope dating back to sailor moon where when women undertake violence they are presented as visually becoming more mature for stepping into the adult world, then regressing back to a childish appearance once the violence is done. Sexist brainworms aside (boy protagonists don't have to put up with that) this kinda works as a visual metaphor when your protagonists are all teenagers straddling adulthood, but this particular use with Nezuko... Nah dawg, the rest of your story about :snipes-hesitation: is fire, but Nezuko's the one glaring weak spot. (and zenitzu, but at least he has moments.)

            • mittens [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Zoomers are the main anime consumers now, so the big anime are Demon Slayer, Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man, sometimes My Hero Academia and One Piece. Believe me, I keep my finger on the pulse (I sometimes walk through an anime tat market and most places have items from these animes on display). They're huge, you wouldn't believe. These are ok in my book, I'd let my kid watch that stuff, even though I think DS is boring as hell.

                • mittens [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Are you saying that Bleach is back and it's good?

                    • Cromalin [she/her]
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                      1 year ago

                      i absolutely don't believe this saves thousand year blood war. i read the manga, it was so fucking bad

                        • Cromalin [she/her]
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                          1 year ago

                          i was very bored, except for when kubo pulls the most bullshit powers out his ass. like "my power is that i exist in multiple dimensions!" "well, my power is i can attack in those dimensions!" and all that. i also thought visually it was really boring. soul society is a bad setting. i'm happy you liked it though

                            • Cromalin [she/her]
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                              1 year ago

                              that's true, and some of that did get me. i liked the guy who had the power "i am now god. you can't hurt me, because i'm god" and then a minor character reveals her power that was a secret til then and says "my power is this sword that can kill god". that was dumb enough that it was entertaining. but outside the 2 i mentioned i didn't care about most of the twists

              • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                I just finished Chainsaw Man last week and it's pretty fun. Instead of like the power of friendship the shonen protagonist is incredibly horny and sees boobs as his ninja way. A couple characters regularly abandon fights when things are looking dicey.

              • Cromalin [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                chainsaw man is so good. the anime is alright, but the manga is incredible. denji starts out wanting to touch boobs, but it quickly becomes clear that that won't actually bring him happiness and what he actually needs is healthy relationships with the people around him

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Michio Kaga (加賀 道夫, Kaga Michio) Voiced by: Taku Yashiro[5] Michio is a human who abruptly finds himself displaced into the setting of a cheap online fantasy game. His cheat abilities in the game include analyzing everything around him, enabling him to assess their strengths and weaknesses. With a perceptive mind and his skills in kendo, he is able to hold his own in this new, dangerous environment. Roxanne (ロクサーヌ, Rokusānu) Voiced by: Shiori Mikami[5] Roxanne is a wolfkin who becomes Michio's first slave and party member. They first met when Michio purchased Roxanne from her owner. Sherry (セリー, Serī) Voiced by: Shiori Izawa[6] Sherry is a dwarf who becomes Michio's second slave and party member. Due to her thin ears, which makes her looks older, she was cheaper to buy. Sherry is exceptionally intelligent and frequently asked more direct or probing questions than Roxanne. Miria (ミリア) Voiced by: Honoka Kuroki[6] Miria is a catkin who becomes Michio's third slave and party member. Her obsession with fish led her to becoming a slave as she stole some from a sacred pond. Miria is still learning the magical language in the books, and communicates through Roxanne. Vesta (ベスタ, Besuta) Voiced by: Rina Honnizumi[6] Vesta is a dragonkin who becomes Michio's fourth slave and party member. Vesta has been a slave her entire life due to her parents being slaves themselves. Rutina (ルティナ) Voiced by: Mikako Izawa[6] Rutina is an elf who becomes Michio's fifth slave and party member. She is a former noble who was forced into slavery. Allen (アラン, Aran) Voiced by: Kenta Miyake[7] Allen is a slave merchant in Vale. Having a friendly personality, he treats his slaves well and ensures they find good homes.

        :agony-4horsemen:

    • Hoyt [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      (guy who cannot fathom criticizing art outside of its own text)

      :frothingfash: it only shows that stuff because the goblins are evil like havnt you watched the show

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        According to the lore the goblins can not be reasoned with and they even did a sexual violence in the first episode therefore unlimited genocide is justified and good and funny! :so-true:

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          the goblins can not be reasoned with and they even did a sexual violence in the first episode therefore unlimited genocide is justified and good and funny!

          SMH I can't believe the goblins are white liberal coded

    • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      I never finished Goblin slayer but I never saw it as fascist but I can totally see how fash would latch onto it

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Oh shit, goblin slayer is back? Forgive me JK Rowling, it's time to go back to the old me :bugs-bunny-old-me:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      From what I learned in this thread, there's worse now to feed the /pol/ hogs. :agony-4horsemen:

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      Right wing ideology delivered by a man with a coffee can stuck on his head.