Ah. Yeah. I’ve met fans of these shows at anime groups.
There are 2 types -
The kind who have no media literacy on this because they just like seeing cool fireballs and are somewhere on the spectrum (normally mentioned early on)
The guys who really like that shit, but they mostly try to talk at cis-women about it and don’t take mild suggestions as topics try and shift. They tend to get banned soon after as a hazard.
I miss how the OG isekai involving mainly schoolgirls were just far better because they didn't pander as though their audience were just grungy r@pe gremlins, Miyazaki was right anime was a big fucking mistake
This is why you need to be innoculated with The Man Who Came Too Early/Hard To Be A God/Merchant Princes. Western-Style Portal Fantasies have always had flaws of their own (especially the "Guy With Shed implements industrial revolution" subtype which in a couple of examples devolves into a cringe harem fantasy (glares at The Radiant Knight)), but they've generally been better. But now I see Isekai-style tropes infect them too.
Yeah. Anime has “advanced “ past Goblin Slayer and into full on jerk off while having a power fantasy shows. That get simulcast in the US streaming. So some poor fuckers scramble to get out subtitles on these shows.
The biggest shows last year were: Demon slayer (plz don't confuse, this one is about 1 good boy empathetically killing rich people allegories), Kaguya-sama: love is war, spyxfamily, Lycoris recoil, chainsaw man, bocchi the rock! and Gundam: Witch from Mercury.
Chainsaw man and Gundam have heavy leftist themes. Lycoris recoil is gay, and along with demon slayer are heavily action oriented shows. The rest are cute comedies aimed at normal people. Bocchi was a word-of-mouth smash hit, but the rest of these shows had marketing budgets that probably dwarfed the entire production budget of something like World's end harem.
All the thinly veiled far right isekai stories usually originate from studios desperate to adapt self-published webnovels in the chase for that sweet sweet sword art online money (goblin slayer, shield hero), but they're finding that well to be dry cos those stories only got "popular" because only terminally online Nazi's read them, and the mainstream continues to be dominated by Weekly Shone Jump adaptations because WSJ has editors.
And even in that web novel space there's push-back-we just had an isekai where the protagonist does the radical action of... Killing slavers and emancipating slaves. (reincarnated as a sword) edit: So I wouldn't get all doomer about anime just yet. Until something like goblin slayer gets into WSJ, things haven't gotten that bad.
Captain of the Anime Defense Force reporting for the daily Anime Struggle Session, ready to testify that the treats are progressive, sir!
But seriously, I get how disheartening watching stuff you like inevitably slide right wards under capitalism is, so we gotta take the W's where we can yeah?
Yeah I'm not going to go in depth to defend demon slayer (mostly bcoz I don't have time rn haha, nor does it particularly deserve a defense) but the way it frames demonic power as something hoarded and doled out at the whim of the head demon, elevating those psychopathic enough to be useful, struck me as a decent enough allegory of wealth.
You got me on Nezuko tho, like I get that the design was probably going for "restrained violence" but it's still yikes.
Zoomers are the main anime consumers now, so the big anime are Demon Slayer, Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man, sometimes My Hero Academia and One Piece. Believe me, I keep my finger on the pulse (I sometimes walk through an anime tat market and most places have items from these animes on display). They're huge, you wouldn't believe. These are ok in my book, I'd let my kid watch that stuff, even though I think DS is boring as hell.
I just finished Chainsaw Man last week and it's pretty fun. Instead of like the power of friendship the shonen protagonist is incredibly horny and sees boobs as his ninja way. A couple characters regularly abandon fights when things are looking dicey.
chainsaw man is so good. the anime is alright, but the manga is incredible. denji starts out wanting to touch boobs, but it quickly becomes clear that that won't actually bring him happiness and what he actually needs is healthy relationships with the people around him
the goblins can not be reasoned with and they even did a sexual violence in the first episode therefore unlimited genocide is justified and good and funny!
SMH I can't believe the goblins are white liberal coded
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In 2023 - it’s Harem in the Labrynth in another world or Worlds end harem.
Possibly Shield Hero.
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I stopped during the first episode.
It seemed like it could have been okay with the multi-verse.
But then the false rape accusations followed by slavery, I just couldn’t.
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Ah. Yeah. I’ve met fans of these shows at anime groups.
There are 2 types -
The kind who have no media literacy on this because they just like seeing cool fireballs and are somewhere on the spectrum (normally mentioned early on)
The guys who really like that shit, but they mostly try to talk at cis-women about it and don’t take mild suggestions as topics try and shift. They tend to get banned soon after as a hazard.
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Love when the lore simply is and had no human write it.
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I miss how the OG isekai involving mainly schoolgirls were just far better because they didn't pander as though their audience were just grungy r@pe gremlins, Miyazaki was right anime was a big fucking mistake
This is why you need to be innoculated with The Man Who Came Too Early/Hard To Be A God/Merchant Princes. Western-Style Portal Fantasies have always had flaws of their own (especially the "Guy With Shed implements industrial revolution" subtype which in a couple of examples devolves into a cringe harem fantasy (glares at The Radiant Knight)), but they've generally been better. But now I see Isekai-style tropes infect them too.
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Kino
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Yeah. Anime has “advanced “ past Goblin Slayer and into full on jerk off while having a power fantasy shows. That get simulcast in the US streaming. So some poor fuckers scramble to get out subtitles on these shows.
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The biggest shows last year were: Demon slayer (plz don't confuse, this one is about 1 good boy empathetically killing rich people allegories), Kaguya-sama: love is war, spyxfamily, Lycoris recoil, chainsaw man, bocchi the rock! and Gundam: Witch from Mercury.
Chainsaw man and Gundam have heavy leftist themes. Lycoris recoil is gay, and along with demon slayer are heavily action oriented shows. The rest are cute comedies aimed at normal people. Bocchi was a word-of-mouth smash hit, but the rest of these shows had marketing budgets that probably dwarfed the entire production budget of something like World's end harem.
All the thinly veiled far right isekai stories usually originate from studios desperate to adapt self-published webnovels in the chase for that sweet sweet sword art online money (goblin slayer, shield hero), but they're finding that well to be dry cos those stories only got "popular" because only terminally online Nazi's read them, and the mainstream continues to be dominated by Weekly Shone Jump adaptations because WSJ has editors.
And even in that web novel space there's push-back-we just had an isekai where the protagonist does the radical action of... Killing slavers and emancipating slaves. (reincarnated as a sword) edit: So I wouldn't get all doomer about anime just yet. Until something like goblin slayer gets into WSJ, things haven't gotten that bad.
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Captain of the Anime Defense Force reporting for the daily Anime Struggle Session, ready to testify that the treats are progressive, sir!
But seriously, I get how disheartening watching stuff you like inevitably slide right wards under capitalism is, so we gotta take the W's where we can yeah?
Edit: Why is there no Felix stolen valor emoji
:admiral-biederman:
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Yeah I'm not going to go in depth to defend demon slayer (mostly bcoz I don't have time rn haha, nor does it particularly deserve a defense) but the way it frames demonic power as something hoarded and doled out at the whim of the head demon, elevating those psychopathic enough to be useful, struck me as a decent enough allegory of wealth.
You got me on Nezuko tho, like I get that the design was probably going for "restrained violence" but it's still yikes.
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Zoomers are the main anime consumers now, so the big anime are Demon Slayer, Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man, sometimes My Hero Academia and One Piece. Believe me, I keep my finger on the pulse (I sometimes walk through an anime tat market and most places have items from these animes on display). They're huge, you wouldn't believe. These are ok in my book, I'd let my kid watch that stuff, even though I think DS is boring as hell.
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Are you saying that Bleach is back and it's good?
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impossible
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I just finished Chainsaw Man last week and it's pretty fun. Instead of like the power of friendship the shonen protagonist is incredibly horny and sees boobs as his ninja way. A couple characters regularly abandon fights when things are looking dicey.
chainsaw man is so good. the anime is alright, but the manga is incredible. denji starts out wanting to touch boobs, but it quickly becomes clear that that won't actually bring him happiness and what he actually needs is healthy relationships with the people around him
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All I know about SpyXFamily is there is a little girl in it whom everyone seems obsessed with
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she's the main character. she's fun
imma be real wit you, I'm sticking to my Dragon ball Z/Super (and I don't even really like Super)
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I didn't have to read that description. Why did I read the description?
:dead-dove-2: :dead-dove-3:
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Yikes
(guy who cannot fathom criticizing art outside of its own text)
:frothingfash: it only shows that stuff because the goblins are evil like havnt you watched the show
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SMH I can't believe the goblins are white liberal coded
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I never finished Goblin slayer but I never saw it as fascist but I can totally see how fash would latch onto it