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Gas stoves/ovens, as they're implemented in American homes, are stupid and clearly dangerous. They could be fixed, but absolutely no home owner will actually do so unless someone makes them at gunpoint.
That said I'm gonna stand up for gas ovens as being the ideal way to cook pizza. The American electrical system simply cannot provide the required heat or consistency for optimal pie.
My solution? Communal pizza ovens on every block, constantly firing to provide perfect and safe pies to all.
I hate liberals, but I think I hate conservatives more. Just the child mentality of "ANYONE TELLING ME ANYTHING IS BAD" is so annoying.
It's true liberals even have a counter to my original complaint about conservatives.
"Umm actually terrible thing is not terrible, you're not allowed to say things are bad."
a study came out saying they were bad
republicans now claim democrats are trying to ban them, social media mad
they won't ban them, but even if they did it would probably only be for new construction. no one is proposing to rip up existing gas lines
it's just another failure by the democrats in messaging. as usual.
Gas appliance exhaust is toxic and needs adequate ventilation, which large swathes of American residences don't have.
Someone in government gets the idea to ban gas appliances in residences, which negatively effects working class people, rather than changing building codes to mandate adequate ventilation to the exterior of the building (which kitchens should all have regardless of what heat source), which would cost capital more money.
Another government official floats the idea of an $840 tax rebate (you can tell it's early in workshopping because there's no means-testing), which would only cover a garbage-ass glasstop electric stove (induction stoves [range + electric oven] start at $1300, and they are superior to both gas and electric ranges).
The usual Twitter crowds misconstrue the announcements and each other's arguments for clout (whether deliberate or not is inconsequential).
The Biden administration quietly lets the topic die.
(which kitchens should all have regardless of what heat source)
what do you mean I love having all the grease and smoke and shit from my cooking just settle everywhere and if I flip on the fan above my stove it just blasts shit up towards the ceiling, that's great and well designed
Gas stoves are proud straight Christian white males, and electric stoves are gay homosexuals trying to force their way of life onto the gas stoves
It is kind of fucking insane that electricity of all things is considered gay and feminine. You're literally channelling a stream of highly energetic particles at the basic level of our reality. The kind of shit that could kill you before you knew you were dead.
Electric cars and stoves - big fem energy, combustion cars and stoves - manly.
Awaiting return of steampowered drills and chainsaws
Arc welding - also gay btw
Guys in the 1950s: Cooking is for the gays and women, real men sit in the parlor after work and smoke a pipe while reading the financial times.
Guys today: Come and take my gas stove you satanic commie demonrats! :frothingfash:
I don't agree with this take, but I like it for the chaos it brings to the conversation.
Idk, as someone who rents the entire debate is about things out of my control. Id like to not be steadily gassed over time, but the decision isn't mine to make because property relations are a fuck and porky needs all the money in the world apparently
Yeah, I don't think I've ever had a choice on the type of stove my landlord has.
gas stoves in and of themselves aren't bad but for some reason they're allowed to install "ductless" range hoods in the US where it just runs all the fumes through a filter
My gas stove doesn't even have a range but my apartment has tall ceilings. How fucked am I? Should I cook with all the doors and windows open?
You telling me this isn't all about that Russian with the 24/7 livestream of an unattended gas burner?
Why did the media suddenly start bleating about banning gas stoves, all at once? The company behind the study is called “Carbon-Free Buildings.” That company is a partner of the World Economic Forum and has a true-believer CEO who wants to rid the world of all carbon emissions (which is impossible and would lead to mass extinction).
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I'd probably still prefer a crappy electric plate over a gas stove, fucking insane to me to read stories like "Oh yeah haha once I woke up in the middle of the night and realized the gas was on and if I turned the knob one way I'd have just shut it off no problem but if I turned it the other I'd have had a fireball right in my face, luckily I turned it the right way".
I mean I guess theres probably safety measures on nicer gas stoves, but then we're in the bougie argument shit again, "Oh your gas stove automatically tries to not kill you if you forget to turn it off properly? Ok PMC." Might be different if Id grown up with it, but I still forget shit with electric or induction stoves so not having an open flame and flowing gas in the house is a nice reassurance.
I don't know or care, all I know is that I hate electric stoves because they're shit (even the fancy induction ones) and if it wasn't for having a gas stove, I wouldn't be able to cook with all the rolling electricity blackouts.
And yes, the rolling electricity blackouts will come for you too. Just look at Texas last year.
It's also a PR move by the natural gas companies to distract from the recent trend of legislation banning natural gas lines in new residential construction and generally to sour people on the idea of regulating natural gas
